arthra
01-07-2008, 08:13 PM
But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels of
heaven, but my Father only. - Mt 24:36
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How is this compatible with the prophecies in e.g. Dan 8, Rev
11, etc. which seem to give actual dates for when we could
expect the Messiah?
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Here was my reply:
I think this can be explained in what is called the mini
apocalypse or the "Sermon of the End" in Matthew 24:1-28, upon
which Abdul-Baha Himself commented:
"In Matthew, chapter 24, verse 3, Christ clearly says that what
Daniel meant by this prophecy was the date of the manifestation,
and this is the verse: "As He sat upon the mount of Olives, the
disciples came unto Him privately, saying, Tell us, when shall
these things be? and what shall be the sign of Thy coming, and
of the end of the world?" One of the explanations He gave them
in reply was this (v. 15): "When ye therefore shall see the
abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet,
stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand)." In
this answer He referred them to the eighth chapter of the Book of
Daniel, saying that everyone who reads it will understand that it
is this time that is spoken of."
See the chapter in "Some Answered Questions":
http://bahai-library.com/writings/abdulbaha/saq/10.html
So saying at the time: "But of that day and hour knoweth no man,
no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only." - Mt 24:36 does
not really contradict the references to the prophecies in Daniel in
my view as the Father knew them.
Note that passages in Daniel would have been better known by
a reference such as "abomination of desolation" than a chapter
or verse as there were of course no chapters or verses in those
days to designate specific Scriptures.
- Art
heaven, but my Father only. - Mt 24:36
---------
How is this compatible with the prophecies in e.g. Dan 8, Rev
11, etc. which seem to give actual dates for when we could
expect the Messiah?
_______________________
Here was my reply:
I think this can be explained in what is called the mini
apocalypse or the "Sermon of the End" in Matthew 24:1-28, upon
which Abdul-Baha Himself commented:
"In Matthew, chapter 24, verse 3, Christ clearly says that what
Daniel meant by this prophecy was the date of the manifestation,
and this is the verse: "As He sat upon the mount of Olives, the
disciples came unto Him privately, saying, Tell us, when shall
these things be? and what shall be the sign of Thy coming, and
of the end of the world?" One of the explanations He gave them
in reply was this (v. 15): "When ye therefore shall see the
abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet,
stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand)." In
this answer He referred them to the eighth chapter of the Book of
Daniel, saying that everyone who reads it will understand that it
is this time that is spoken of."
See the chapter in "Some Answered Questions":
http://bahai-library.com/writings/abdulbaha/saq/10.html
So saying at the time: "But of that day and hour knoweth no man,
no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only." - Mt 24:36 does
not really contradict the references to the prophecies in Daniel in
my view as the Father knew them.
Note that passages in Daniel would have been better known by
a reference such as "abomination of desolation" than a chapter
or verse as there were of course no chapters or verses in those
days to designate specific Scriptures.
- Art