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Old 04-14-2015, 08:52 PM   #1
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The Faith & Globalization

I read a document on line that said the Baha'i Faith envisions a Global Government with the Baha'is running that Government. This was not my understanding. I only understood the Faith wanting government working by Baha'i principals. Are we really looking to create a Baha'i Global theocracy or will the UHJ remain the religious and spiritual head outside of such a Government? What do others understand about the Baha'i concept of "world Government". As I recall, diversity, nations and cultures would remain distinct but in unity. IE: Unity in Diversity. (Unlike the Islamic notions of religion running Governments)

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Old 04-14-2015, 11:38 PM   #2
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I see the Government as external to the Faith, it may very well ask advice from the Universal House of Justice.

Might we say that Render unto Ceaser may be the case for quite some time to come!

The article you read would not be from a Baha'i site I would say. More likely from a site looking to find fault, would be good to check that!

God bless regards Tony
 
Old 04-15-2015, 02:08 AM   #3
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Government and Bahai administration are two distinct things, and there are Bahai writings about both of them. When conditions allow, Bahais will be involved in politics and government on the national and international levels; for the present the conditions are only right in a few cases at the local level.

https://senmcglinn.wordpress.com/com...hurch-n-state/

The involvement of believers in government and politics is not theocracy. Theocracy would be if the religious institutions became the government, but that is not the Bahai position or ambition. Shoghi Effendi writes:

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“Theirs is not the purpose, while endeavoring to conduct and perfect the administrative affairs of their Faith, to violate, under any circumstances, the provisions of their country’s constitution, much less to allow the machinery of their administration to supersede the government of their respective countries.”
(Shoghi Effendi, in The World Order of Baha’u’llah 66.)
and in a letter written on his behalf:
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“The Administrative Order is not a governmental or civic body, it is to regulate and guide the internal affairs of the Bahá’í community; consequently it works, according to its own procedure, best suited to its needs. (Shoghi Effendi, Messages to Canada, 276)
 
Old 04-15-2015, 08:14 AM   #4
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I see the Government as external to the Faith, it may very well ask advice from the Universal House of Justice.

Might we say that Render unto Ceaser may be the case for quite some time to come!

The article you read would not be from a Baha'i site I would say. More likely from a site looking to find fault, would be good to check that!

God bless regards Tony
Actually I knew it was not a Baha'i who had written the document. For the most part, this researcher was Baha'i positive. I think she simply misunderstood the long term goals of the faith as she was making very futuristic projections. She clearly meant no harm and the truth is, even many Baha'is do not understand the concepts as outlined in the writings, as to what that future will look like. I have since looked at:
Series: Baha'is and Theocracy

Very clear info on this Baha'i site. I'd love to contact Ms. Walburg but there is no public contact that I can find. I do think she would be receptive to correction.
 
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