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Old 05-05-2016, 12:41 PM   #1
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Is there any kind of Baha'i program for prison outreach?

Recidivism rates, at least in my country, are terrible, and it seems as if, for whatever reason, there simply is no attempt made anymore by society at large to try to reform criminals. So they go in, often for minor crimes, and get stuck on an endless cycle that does no one any good, except for people who take perverse pleasure at seeing persons imprisoned.

There are things that can be done to help. I am curious if there are pilot programs that can be adopted, or something that has been tried that works. This seems to be like something that would really help others. We are a small group of people, right now, but focused in ways that correspond with the teachings we try to live by, I think we could do a lot of good.
 
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Old 05-05-2016, 12:59 PM   #2
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Is there any kind of Baha'i program for prison outreach?

Recidivism rates, at least in my country, are terrible, and it seems as if, for whatever reason, there simply is no attempt made anymore by society at large to try to reform criminals. So they go in, often for minor crimes, and get stuck on an endless cycle that does no one any good, except for people who take perverse pleasure at seeing persons imprisoned.

There are things that can be done to help. I am curious if there are pilot programs that can be adopted, or something that has been tried that works. This seems to be like something that would really help others. We are a small group of people, right now, but focused in ways that correspond with the teachings we try to live by, I think we could do a lot of good.
I like the idea. Seen too much of innocent people going to jail.

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Old 05-05-2016, 04:02 PM   #3
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I know Abdu'l-Baha encouraged this kind of work:

Bahá'í Reference Library - Selections From the Writings of ‘Abdu’l-Bahá, Pages 116-117
 
Old 05-05-2016, 05:22 PM   #4
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Wow.. I had never read this. He even mentions San Quentin by name. That's almost chilling, to me somehow.

So this is something we're actually supposed to be doing.
 
Old 05-06-2016, 12:21 AM   #5
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Honestly, I immediately had a look at the conditions for visits to Swedish prisons. To my mind, this is a very good idea. I've been in touch with Swedish organizations for ex-cons, and really liked what they do.

It's paradoxical that many former criminals have had much time to think about life, and have arrived at conclusions that are far from ordinary. Some have developed into really insightful and admirable people.

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Some countries have volunteer prison visitors
 
Old 05-06-2016, 03:12 PM   #7
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Some countries have volunteer prison visitors
But the worst are the arrests, where people can be kept for months here in Sweden. Torture chambers, that's a better word. People kept isolated for months. After that, they are unable to think and defend themselves.

That's a place where visits are needed.

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Old 05-11-2016, 02:56 PM   #8
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Wow.. I had never read this. He even mentions San Quentin by name. That's almost chilling, to me somehow.

So this is something we're actually supposed to be doing.

We know that all political, economic, scientific, etc systems found in today's world are totally broken. This of course includes the justice system and prisons.

Rather than trying to rehabilitate individuals, a beautiful goal that could lead to a true inner and lasting transformation and lead to lasting change for the individual and society, we instead lock them away for life and pay ridiculous amounts of time, energy, money, and other costs to do this. Just think of the toll this takes on the families and children of incarcerated inmates. How can these children be nurtured to spiritually grow and reach their potential when their primary educators (parents) are locked away all the time? The effect on society is probably a tremendous one.


This type of a justice system, obviously rests on a certain worldview and view of human nature....one that in my opinion is completely at odds with what we know as Bahai's. In my opinion, the best way to remedy any of these situations and social ills is simply to teach the Faith.
 
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And then we have the incarceration rates by race and ethnicity. They are absurd.

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