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Old 04-20-2016, 03:21 PM   #1
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Happy Ridvan one and all

Dearly beloved brothers and sisters in Bahaullah , may I wish you all the joys and blessings of the most special Baha'i celebration when Bahaullah revealed Himself to His disciples just as Lord Jesus did in Gethsemene
 
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Old 06-22-2016, 08:54 PM   #2
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How do you understand a phrase ‘instinctive posture of learning’ used in the Ridvan 2016 message?
It is in the third paragraph: “The signs of their progress are more and more apparent: … in the now familiar dynamic of study, consultation, action, and reflection that has cultivated an instinctive posture of learning …”
It is common to see the use of phrase ‘posture of learning’ in the Baha’i texts but instinctive? I don’t get it.
 
Old 06-24-2016, 05:42 PM   #3
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How do you understand a phrase ‘instinctive posture of learning’ used in the Ridvan 2016 message?
It is in the third paragraph: “The signs of their progress are more and more apparent: … in the now familiar dynamic of study, consultation, action, and reflection that has cultivated an instinctive posture of learning …”
It is common to see the use of phrase ‘posture of learning’ in the Baha’i texts but instinctive? I don’t get it.
The way I would look at it is if you look to a Child you will see the unstopable search for knowledge, if you had a child you will know how much the sponge asks

Also look at nature how life gives inbuilt learning to God Given decrees. As Intelligences increase, there appears to be a more compelling need to know more.

With Man the potential to know much is given and the instinct we have is to know more and more.

Regards Tony
 
Old 06-24-2016, 05:45 PM   #4
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Dearly beloved brothers and sisters in Bahaullah , may I wish you all the joys and blessings of the most special Baha'i celebration when Bahaullah revealed Himself to His disciples just as Lord Jesus did in Gethsemene
Was travelling at this time, missed the greeting as it appears so did all It was a great Ridvan, thank you and I hope yours was as well!

Regards Tony
 
Old 06-25-2016, 03:57 PM   #5
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The way I would look at it is if you look to a Child you will see the unstopable search for knowledge, if you had a child you will know how much the sponge asks

Also look at nature how life gives inbuilt learning to God Given decrees. As Intelligences increase, there appears to be a more compelling need to know more.

With Man the potential to know much is given and the instinct we have is to know more and more.
Tony, thank you for your input! It gave me some food for thought.

And yes, I agree with what you have written. The only problem with it I don’t see how it helps me to understand the words of the Ridvan message.

It seems to me that you answered the question as to what is instinctive learning. I don’t have problems to understand that. But I straggle to understand what instinctive posture is.

English is not my native language. So please correct me if language wise posture of instinctive learning is not different from instinctive posture of learning. To me there is a difference. And one I understand (and agree with your explanation), the other is beyond my limited cognitive abilities.

I’ve recalled that they used to use a phrase ‘humble posture of learning’. Consider to rewrite it into ‘a posture of humble learning’ and you get a completely different meaning.

So, I’m still not sure how to understand ‘instinctive posture of learning’.
 
Old 06-25-2016, 07:59 PM   #6
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Tony, thank you for your input! It gave me some food for thought.

And yes, I agree with what you have written. The only problem with it I don’t see how it helps me to understand the words of the Ridvan message.

It seems to me that you answered the question as to what is instinctive learning. I don’t have problems to understand that. But I straggle to understand what instinctive posture is.

English is not my native language. So please correct me if language wise posture of instinctive learning is not different from instinctive posture of learning. To me there is a difference. And one I understand (and agree with your explanation), the other is beyond my limited cognitive abilities.

I’ve recalled that they used to use a phrase ‘humble posture of learning’. Consider to rewrite it into ‘a posture of humble learning’ and you get a completely different meaning.

So, I’m still not sure how to understand ‘instinctive posture of learning’.
I think if you look at what Posture can Mean then combine what you know about Instinctive, then it encompasses the meaning of the Phrase:

So put instinctive in front of any of the synonyms: instinctive attitude, instinctive stance, instinctive stand, instinctive standpoint, instinctive view, instinctive point of view, instinctive viewpoint, instinctive opinion, instinctive position, instinctive way of thinking, instinctive frame of mind, instinctive outlook, instinctive angle, instinctive slant, instinctive perspective, and of learning at the end;

You will see the Single Phrase of ‘instinctive posture of learning coves much thought!

Regards Tony
 
Old 06-27-2016, 06:35 PM   #7
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Tony, thank you! Now the phrase makes more sense to me.
 
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