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Old 06-26-2015, 05:28 AM   #1
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Amazing Things We Bahá’ís Can Do to Each Other

There are some phenomena that I’ve seldom seen described in texts, except in relation to the leading figures of our Faith. I’m thinking of those interpersonal, amazing things that can happen between us. Lucid dreams are common, but those are one-person experiences. But there are some things that we seem to be able to do to each other.

I have heard of people dreaming other people’s dreams and other fascinating things.

A few times, I have personally experienced something that can be felt in a very physical way. You can carry a big sorrow, and then suddenly someone senses it and shares it with you. From one second to the other, the pain is just gone from your stomach. You are full of energy. I think that is what ’Abdu’l-Bahá describes as taking over other people’s sorrows.

You can attend an ND Feast and unexpectedly feel as if a ray is searching your head. You can attend a presentation and perceive light/halos around the participants, at the same time hearing that some people have started to sob.

You can do a presentation about Shoghi Effendi and during the coffee break you receive an sms saying that someone has prayed for you at the Guardian’s grave (basically, it feels like ”Greetings and thanks from the Guardian!”).

There can be years between these events, but they are thrilling when they occur.

The preconditions seem to be absolute detachment, absolute sincerity, the readiness to carry the decision through at any cost - even at the cost of one's own life.

Other stories?

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Old 06-26-2015, 06:04 AM   #2
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Just a few minutes ago, a miracle occurred. I met my exwife together with the children. She treated me with forebearance, like a person who has a heart!!! She showed signs of genuine kind generosity towards me instead of just pursuing her own narrow interests!!!

She is not a Bahá'í, but I have to include it. The Faith is involved somehow. This is a miracle. To put this in the language of our Faith: she did something that had the right smell to it!!!

I almost cried. I haven't seen a wee glimpse of this for eight years.

Now, don't make too much of it. She's remarried. But the joy of seeing someone show a glimpse of a soul, where for so long I almost have doubted that there was one!

gnat

P.S. I think the trick is absolute, even extreme, detachment on my part - I can testify to that - which made her feel secure enough to actually let her soul se the light of the day in my presence.

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Old 06-26-2015, 08:02 AM   #3
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Dear Gnat,

As someone who went through the pain of divorce more than twenty years ago I have to say that after awhile the anger begins to dissipate and you begin to remember, if nothing else, that this is the father/mother of your child. This is especially true once there is no more child support to argue over.

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Old 06-26-2015, 08:18 AM   #4
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Dear Gnat,

As someone who went through the pain of divorce more than twenty years ago I have to say that after awhile the anger begins to dissipate and you begin to remember, if nothing else, that this is the father/mother of your child. This is especially true once there is no more child support to argue over.

warmest, Susan
There are two runners-up for the title as The Greatest Killer of Men of All Times - the common flu, which takes a week off your life with with every week's infection, and divorce that can turn your hair gray in a few weeks, reduce perfecty healthy people to nervous wrecks who lament over their recurring cancer treatments, pneumonia spells, loss of nerve tissue and extreme weight loss in conjunction with general fatigue that makes them unable to do normal work.

But, all this said, let's continue to look at the wonderful positive things that we can do do each other.

gnat

P. S. Out of respect for the Faith's teachings, I'm not going to tell you what has occurred during the more than eight years that this divorce has been going on - the preparatory phase, the long, long outbreak, etc. I can only tell you sincerely that I've talked to a number of psychologist who have stared at me with big eyes, unable to make heads and tails of the issues. That's why I scream "A miracle!"

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Old 06-26-2015, 11:09 AM   #5
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Dear Gnat - Just a story for your post, as to me this is what Unity is about.

All we do, all we think is part of this unity.

In and prior to December 2012 this forum had been taken over by trolls, some even stealing identities and posting rubbish as other members. Daniel the owner and moderator of this site was at this time away and we had not been able to contact him via the site links. We had been trying for a long time.

It happened I went on Pilgrimage at this time and at one time in the shrine if Abdul'baha I made mention of this site and if it was to be a place to share God it would be good if Daniel could return to again moderate The site.

That night back at my accommodation in Haifa, I logged on to Bahai Forums and the first post on the list was Daniel returned and was back to clean up the spam and the Trolls. Ever since that time I note Daniel is in Tue background.

I found that a wow moment

God bless and regards Tony

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Old 06-26-2015, 12:54 PM   #6
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P. S. Out of respect for the Faith's teachings, I'm not going to tell you what has occurred during the more than eight years that this divorce has been going on - the preparatory phase, the long, long outbreak, etc. I can only tell you sincerely that I've talked to a number of psychologist who have stared at me with big eyes, unable to make heads and tails of the issues. That's why I scream "A miracle!"
Someone once asked me if it was a 'friendly divorce.' I said, "if we were still friends I wouldn't divorce him!" However after twenty years I can honestly say we are friends again. But I'm not going to share my bed with him again and I'm sure not going to mix up my finances with his. That way, we can stay friends.
 
Old 06-26-2015, 01:31 PM   #7
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In and prior to December 2012 this forum had been taken over by trolls, some even stealing identities and posting rubbish as other members. Daniel the owner and moderator of this site was at this time away and we had not been able to contact him via the site links. We had been trying for a long time.

It happened I went on Pilgrimage at this time and at one time in the shrine if Abdul'baha I made mention of this site and if it was to be a place to share God it would be good if Daniel could return to again moderate The site.

That night back at my accommodation in Haifa, I logged on to Bahai Forums and the first post on the list was Daniel returned and was back to clean uontue spam and the Trolls. Ever since that time I note Daniel is in Tue background.

I found that a wow moment

God bless and regards Tony
That's a really good one. And the result: a Bahá'í forum with a strong Bahá'í spirit. And already in this world!

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Old 07-13-2015, 01:30 PM   #8
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A very close friend of mine, a woman who isn't Baha'i whom I know for years, since school, has often been lonely and felt lost. She had a couple of unhappy relationships with guys, and I tried to be there for her when her heart was broken again.

One day, I gave her a copy of "Prayers and Meditations" as a gift. She'd sometimes read a prayer, she said.

Then she met a guy, an American from L.A. living here in Berlin, and they fell in love. When he happened to see the book at her place, he got curious: Turned out that his mother is a Baha'i who used to live in Iran until she was nine, and he too was raised in the faith as a kid -- although he didn't practize or care much about for more than a decade.

What a coincidence! There are only 300 Baha'is here in Berlin. How are the odds he'd meet one here?

He didn't have an easy life, has many problems and troubles, and the two of them don't have an easy relationship. But somehow, I feel we're all supposed to play a role in this, due to this connection, I just don't know what it is yet.
 
Old 07-13-2015, 01:36 PM   #9
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A very close friend of mine, a woman who isn't Baha'i whom I know for years, since school, has often been lonely and felt lost. She had a couple of unhappy relationships with guys, and I tried to be there for her when her heart was broken again.

One day, I gave her a copy of "Prayers and Meditations" as a gift. She'd sometimes read a prayer, she said.

Then she met a guy, an American from L.A. living here in Berlin, and they fell in love. When he happened to see the book at her place, he got curious: Turned out that his mother is a Baha'i who used to live in Iran until she was nine, and he too was raised in the faith as a kid -- although he didn't practize or care much about for more than a decade.

What a coincidence! There are only 300 Baha'is here in Berlin. How are the odds he'd meet one here?

He didn't have an easy life, has many problems and troubles, and the two of them don't have an easy relationship. But somehow, I feel we're all supposed to play a role in this, due to this connection, I just don't know what it is yet.
A good story indeed. Food for thought.

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Old 07-13-2015, 02:25 PM   #10
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What a coincidence! There are only 300 Baha'is here in Berlin. How are the odds he'd meet one here?
Same thing happened to me the day after I declared my belief in Baha'u'llah. I felt drawn to go to Sioux City, Iowa the following day and sensed that I should go look up a friend in an antique shop, but my friend wasn't there.

So I wandered down the hall and my eyes fell upon an art shop. Noticing me, the artist invited me inside and started talking to me about all her art for about two hours. Finally, she was finished and sat down.

At that point, struck by her art and words, I pulled out my prayer book and said to her, "You know, so much of what you are saying reminds me of this." To which she replied: "You're the second Bahai to come in here." Then suddendly and with surprise said: "And there he is..!!"

Standing in the doorway, one of only a few hundred Baha'is in the entire state of Iowa, was John Para, a Baha'i from Czeckoslovakia who just "happened" to be in town at the time.

He invited me to his home and told me his story. He was not raised with any religion, did not believe in God, but just knew that he did not want to live under communist rule. So one night he walked to the border, which was heavily guarded, raised his hands, and for the first time prayed: "God, if you get me out of here, I will devote my life to you."

He then crossed the border and was caught by the British, who interrogated him most of the night, thinking him to be a spy. By morning, they were convinced he was not, and handed him a pair of binoculars. He had just crossed a mine field with dead cattle everywhere.

Shortly thereafter, he was sent to Germany, then Texas, where he met some Baha'is and became a steadfast Baha'i.
 
Old 07-13-2015, 02:33 PM   #11
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Same thing happened to me the day after I declared my belief in Baha'u'llah. I felt drawn to go to Sioux City, Iowa the following day and sensed that I should go look up a friend in an antique shop, but my friend wasn't there.

So I wandered down the hall and my eyes fell upon an art shop. Noticing me, the artist invited me inside and started talking to me about all her art for about two hours. Finally, she was finished and sat down.

At that point, struck by her art and words, I pulled out my prayer book and said to her, "You know, so much of what you are saying reminds me of this." To which she replied: "You're the second Bahai to come in here." Then suddendly and with surprise said: "And there he is..!!"

Standing in the doorway, one of only a few hundred Baha'is in the entire state of Iowa, was John Para, a Baha'i from Czeckoslovakia who just "happened" to be in town at the time.

He invited me to his home and told me his story. He was not raised with any religion, did not believe in God, but just knew that he did not want to live under communist rule. So one night he walked to the border, which was heavily guarded, raised his hands, and for the first time prayed: "God, if you get me out of here, I will devote my life to you."

He then crossed the border and was caught by the British, who interrogated him most of the night, thinking him to be a spy. By morning, they were convinced he was not, and handed him a pair of binoculars. He had just crossed a mine field with dead cattle everywhere.

Shortly thereafter, he was sent to Germany, then Texas, where he met some Baha'is and became a steadfast Baha'i.
That's a fascinating story, Dale!
 
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