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Old 10-09-2015, 02:16 PM   #1
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Baha'i piety

Something I was curious about.

In the Catholic religion there is a wide variety of popular devotions and prayers like the rosary, litanies, small pilgrimages, way of the cross etc. Traditionally it is believed that a serious and commited practising of these devotions strenghtens one in the vitue of piety.

Piety sometimes has a negative sound, especially in post-Christian countries. But the original Latin word has to do with strenght and being true to ones obligations.

I wonder how does the Baha'i Faith see this virtue of piety? And what kind of devotions and popular prayers exist that help Baha'i to commune in a spontaneous and profound way with God?
 
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Old 10-09-2015, 02:28 PM   #2
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Hello Sarastro,

I would think, equivallent of what you are describing, are the certain Laws and teachings Baha'u'llah asked Baha'is to do. Some of them are individualy done, and some in gatherings. I can list from my experience the followings:

1) Personal Daily obligatory prayer
2) Personal Daily mentioning of the greatest name of God 95 times.
3) Fasting 19 days per year
4) Reading the Baha'I Writings and prayers every Morning and every night.
5) Going to the Feasts every 19 days

Then there are a number of Don'ts:

1) Drinking alcohol, smoking or using drugs
2) Avoid backbiting, adultry, and off course stealing and murder
 
Old 10-10-2015, 11:51 AM   #3
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Something I was curious about.

In the Catholic religion there is a wide variety of popular devotions and prayers like the rosary, litanies, small pilgrimages, way of the cross etc. Traditionally it is believed that a serious and commited practising of these devotions strenghtens one in the vitue of piety.

Piety sometimes has a negative sound, especially in post-Christian countries. But the original Latin word has to do with strenght and being true to ones obligations.

I wonder how does the Baha'i Faith see this virtue of piety? And what kind of devotions and popular prayers exist that help Baha'i to commune in a spontaneous and profound way with God?
Sarastro, Must admit did not know the full meaning, though have heard it used.

As for Baha'i prayers used in this way, I would think two prayers come to mind

Say: God sufficeth all things above all things, and nothing in the heavens or in the earth but God sufficeth. Verily, He is in Himself the Knower, the Sustainer, the Omnipotent.

The Báb

And

Is there any Remover of difficulties save God? Say: Praised be God! He is God! All are His servants, and all abide by His bidding!

The Báb

Regards Tony

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Old 10-10-2015, 12:53 PM   #4
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Interestingly not long after posting the above I was reading the Kitab-i-iquan this morning and part 1 ends as such;

"There is no piety in turning your faces toward the east or toward the west, but he is pious who believeth in God and the Last Day.” 8 Give ear, O people of the Bayán, unto the truth whereunto We have admonished you, that haply ye may seek the shelter of the shadow extended, in the Day of God, upon all mankind.

END OF PART ONE

8. Qur’án 2:176.


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Old 10-10-2015, 01:40 PM   #5
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Thanks for sharing that quote Tony, very powerful.

InvestigateTruth thanks for the concise and practical overview. This is something that I like about the Baha'i Faith concrete but rich in spiritual depth.
 
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Thanks for sharing that quote Tony, very powerful.

InvestigateTruth thanks for the concise and practical overview. This is something that I like about the Baha'i Faith concrete but rich in spiritual depth.
Sarastro, It is good too see you here again. I hope life and Faith are all good to you.

Regards Tony
 
Old 10-11-2015, 01:10 PM   #7
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Thanks Tony. Yes, things are going well. The quest continues but I feel God is leading me so all is well.
 
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Thanks Tony. Yes, things are going well. The quest continues but I feel God is leading me so all is well.
What is your quest brother Sarastro?
 
Old 10-13-2015, 02:11 PM   #9
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What is your quest brother Sarastro?
Growing in relationship with God and becoming as free as I can in standing before His countenance.
 
Old 10-13-2015, 07:24 PM   #10
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Growing in relationship with God and becoming as free as I can in standing before His countenance.
Sounds easy when said does it not

I wish you well with this Goal regards Tony
 
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Countenance of God's Manifestation

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Growing in relationship with God and becoming as free as I can in standing before His countenance.
Inasmuch as no man can attain to the Essence of God’s Presence, the Bab explains that what we can do is attain the Presence of the Manifestation of God when He is living upon the earth. After He has abandoned His physical garment, we can attain His Presence at His place of rest.

To behold the Countenance of God is likewise possible only by beholding the Countenance of Him Who is the Countenance of God on earth, again meaning Him Who is His Manifestation.

As neither Jesus nor Muhammad, nor the Bab or Baha'u'llah is physically present among us, we turn unto the appointed Qiblih, which for Bahais, is Bahji, near Akka, where the Blessed Beauty was laid to rest. That is, His mortal frame.
 
Old 10-14-2015, 08:03 AM   #12
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Something I was curious about.

In the Catholic religion there is a wide variety of popular devotions and prayers like the rosary, litanies, small pilgrimages, way of the cross etc. Traditionally it is believed that a serious and commited practising of these devotions strenghtens one in the vitue of piety.
In terms of small pilgrimages, I don't think I have ever heard of the Houses of Worship referred to as such, at least in the writings, but they are obviously a focal point for visitation. I believe the House of Worship in India is one of the most visited buildings in the nation, for instance.

As far as rosaries, some use them, some don't. I do not know how many prefer them as a counting aid for the 95 recitations of Allah u'Abha. I have one 19 x 5, prayer bead string, I made myself, and an older Buddhist sandalwood "rosary" I shortened down to 95 when I restrung it. I also use my fingers and knuckles for counting, a bit of paracord with 19 stopper knots put in it, and a touch-app for my tablet.

While we are told to meditate, the Baha'i writings do not actually specify a method for that, so those practices tend to be somewhat persona, I suspect. I actually would find that interesting, to see how that is handled by a large segment within the faith.

There may be a few traditions not encountered in the writings themselves, for instance, turning a certain direction during a certain non-obligatory prayer, but those are not actually a part of the Faith.
 
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