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Old 05-14-2014, 04:47 PM   #1
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The story of the Yaran...Friends of Iran:

Today May 14th marks the sixth anniversary of the imprisonment of six Baha'is in Iran... Here is there story:

Trial of Iran’s seven
Baha’i leaders


On 5 March 2008, Mahvash Sabet – a schoolteacher and mother of two – was arrested having been summoned to the Iranian city of Mashhad to discuss some matters regarding a Baha’i burial. She has been in prison since that time – including the first 175 days spent in solitary confinement.

Two months later, on 14 May,
six other prominent members of Iran’s Baha’i community were incarcerated in Tehran’s notorious Evin prison, after they were arrested in early morning raids at their homes in a sweep that was ominously similar to episodes in the 1980s when scores of Iranian Baha’i leaders were summarily rounded up and killed.
The six were Fariba Kamalabadi, Jamaloddin Khanjani, Afif Naeimi, Saeid Rezaie, Behrouz Tavakkoli, and Vahid Tizfahm.
These five men and two women were all members of a national-level group known as the “Yaran-i-Iran” – or “Friends in Iran”.


Some 20 months after being imprisoned without charge, a trial began on 12 January 2010. Throughout their long wait for justice, the seven had received hardly one hour’s access to their legal counsel and suffered appalling treatment and deprivations, including psychological and physical hardship.
The seven were charged with, among other things, espionage, propaganda against the Islamic republic, the establishment of an illegal administration - charges that were all rejected completely and categorically by the defendants.


Their crime, though, is nothing more than being members of the Baha’i Faith, a religion which has been the focus of a systematic, government-sponsored persecution in Iran since the 1979 revolution.


Read more at


Trial of Iran




There is a chronology of efforts to draw international attention to the plight of the seven Baha'is imprisoned ...

See:

Timeline of events - Bahá'í World News Service
 
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Old 05-15-2014, 01:25 PM   #2
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The countries of the world have been vociferous in condemning human rights violation in many areas. Why not Iran? Is it a du to a wish to pacify and placate?
 
Old 05-15-2014, 01:43 PM   #3
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Because Christians are more afraid of Baha'is than the Muslims are.

The Revolutionary Guard is an arm of the US military.
 
Old 05-15-2014, 02:03 PM   #4
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Because Christians are more afraid of Baha'is than the Muslims are.

The Revolutionary Guard is an arm of the US military.
That's ludicrous
 
Old 05-15-2014, 02:10 PM   #5
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Basic deduction.

The US government was silent on slavery. Therefore it supported it. It was silent on gay discrimination. Therefore it supported it.

Now Bahais are the target.

It is racism against Bahais.

The US is silent on the imprisonment of thr ENTIRE leadership of Iranian Bahais
 
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Shame on you amerikkans
 
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The Kkk loves brownie on brownie violence
 
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Basic deduction.

The US government was silent on slavery. Therefore it supported it. It was silent on gay discrimination. Therefore it supported it.

Now Bahais are the target.

It is racism against Bahais.

The US is silent on the imprisonment of thr ENTIRE leadership of Iranian Bahais
Apparently dear friend you appear not to wish to be a Baha'i anymore.
To strive to spread such words of disunity, to strive to spread untruths and hatred, are certainly for me not the actions of a Baha'i.

I will pray for you.
 
Old 05-15-2014, 07:30 PM   #9
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Difference.................facts can be as slanted as opinion. It's a matter of attitude and diplomacy. Ours is not to tamper with the Will of God, nor befuddle ourselves in discerning destiny.

To speak out, as a Baha'i, is to bring awareness to the light reflecting from the coin in our hand, not to dwell on the dark side of what exists.

Mankind has a great problem wrestling with the forces of creation and destruction. God can be seen as both. The result is the cornerstone of the future. Pray for Justice with such Words as He has Written, and fear not how it is manifest.
 
Old 05-16-2014, 04:07 AM   #10
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The [Iranian] Revolutionary Guard is an arm of the US military.
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The Islamic Republic of Iran was formed by the USA.
Sigh.

The Big Lie Technique again--and yet again! :-( :-( :-(

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Did you say I Don't want to be a Baha'i?

LOL

Baha'i is my identity and culture and ethnicity. Baha'i is cross-cultural and cross-ethnicity, but it is a culture and an ethnicity.

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Bruce,

What are you on about? Are you a Baha'i? I am Baha'i by religion, ethnicity, and culture, but I don't really think religion is good for society.

I think the Baha'i Faith is a world movement similar to early forms of Islam and Christianity. Even Islam and Christianity were not religions when they started. They decayed into "religion" centuries later. Religion is a decayed form of Truth.

I think religion is manmade.

But I believe Baha'u'llah is god and his writings are god's writings.

Every Iranian will tell you that the CIA overthrew Mossadeq and it was the US that set up the Shah, and later it was the US that overthrew the Shah and put in place the Islamic Republic (President Carter).

Bruce,

I think you are a big liar. I don't think you are a Baha'i.

Not nice, is it.

Even if God doesn't exist, I am still a Baha'i. You on the other hand, if you come across a few writings you disagree with you will throw away your card. LOL.

Even if it is shown that Baha'u'llah didn't exist, I am still a Baha'i and would make him up myself.

You adamantly reject unauthorized translation, when in reality you should learn Persian and Arabic to learn to read the writings in their original.

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I think Diff has a point when he alludes to the fact that organised religion can have negative effects. Our Faith is so much more, it's a theology, philosophy,ideology,political,life model,way of life and an attitude
 
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Did you say I Don't want to be a Baha'i?

LOL

Baha'i is my identity and culture and ethnicity. Baha'i is cross-cultural and cross-ethnicity, but it is a culture and an ethnicity.
Dear friend, please do not misquote me, I said appear.

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"It makes no difference whether you have ever heard of Bahá'u'lláh or not," was the answer, "the man who lives the life according to the teachings of Bahá'u'lláh is already a Baha'i. On the other hand a man may call himself a Bahá'í for fifty years and if he does not live the life he is not a Baha'i. An ugly man may call himself handsome, but he deceives no one, and a black man may call himself white yet he deceives no one: not even himself!"

Abdu'l-Baha : Abdu'l-Baha in London
I consider myself a student of Baha'i, for I read of the past Strong ones, who considered themselves as nothing, if that is so, then I am far below their level.
Humility is a great attribute, which we all need to aspire to possess.

Loving regards to you
 
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Guilt by association

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I think Diff has a point when he alludes to the fact that organised religion can have negative effects. Our Faith is so much more, it's a theology, philosophy,ideology,political,life model,way of life and an attitude
. There is a guilt by association with regards to the word "religion". Its like it has left such a bad taste in the mouths of people that it is now popular to simply shun the word entirely. But this is in reality throwing the baby out with the bathwater.

. True and pure religion is the life giving water, the manna from heaven. The characters in the black robes show up, start siphening off the cream and adding their little chemical mix to it, put it in a box and sell it. That isn't religion.

. Isn't this why religion has to be renewed from age to age? Baha'u'llah came to give us fresh water and good bread. I drink his prayers with relish and digest that bread every day. Just because the old stuff is stale doesn't mean the new isn't perfection. It is! Pure perfection, from the hands of the Blessed Beauty Himself:

. “Religion,” writes Bahá’u’lláh, “is the greatest of all means for the establishment of order in the world and for the peaceful contentment of all that dwell therein. The weakening of the pillars of religion hath strengthened the hands of the ignorant and made them bold and arrogant. Verily I say, whatsoever hath lowered the lofty station of religion hath increased the waywardness of the wicked, and the result cannot be but anarchy.”

. “Religion,” He, in another Tablet, has stated, “is a radiant light and an impregnable stronghold for the protection and welfare of the peoples of the world, for the fear of God impelleth man to hold fast to that which is good, and shun all evil. Should the lamp of religion be obscured, chaos and confusion will ensue, and the lights of fairness, of justice, of tranquillity and peace cease to shine.”

Bahá'í Reference Library - The World Order of Bahá’u’lláh, Pages 186-188

. From World Order of Baha'u'llah, in which Shoghi Effendi also puts his two mithqals in. Only about two pages long, and worth the read.
 
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. There is a guilt by association with regards to the word "religion". Its like it has left such a bad taste in the mouths of people that it is now popular to simply shun the word entirely. But this is in reality throwing the baby out with the bathwater.

. True and pure religion is the life giving water, the manna from heaven. The characters in the black robes show up, start siphening off the cream and adding their little chemical mix to it, put it in a box and sell it. That isn't religion.

. Isn't this why religion has to be renewed from age to age? Baha'u'llah came to give us fresh water and good bread. I drink his prayers with relish and digest that bread every day. Just because the old stuff is stale doesn't mean the new isn't perfection. It is! Pure perfection, from the hands of the Blessed Beauty Himself:

. “Religion,” writes Bahá’u’lláh, “is the greatest of all means for the establishment of order in the world and for the peaceful contentment of all that dwell therein. The weakening of the pillars of religion hath strengthened the hands of the ignorant and made them bold and arrogant. Verily I say, whatsoever hath lowered the lofty station of religion hath increased the waywardness of the wicked, and the result cannot be but anarchy.”

. “Religion,” He, in another Tablet, has stated, “is a radiant light and an impregnable stronghold for the protection and welfare of the peoples of the world, for the fear of God impelleth man to hold fast to that which is good, and shun all evil. Should the lamp of religion be obscured, chaos and confusion will ensue, and the lights of fairness, of justice, of tranquillity and peace cease to shine.”

Bahá'í Reference Library - The World Order of Bahá’u’lláh, Pages 186-188

. From World Order of Baha'u'llah, in which Shoghi Effendi also puts his two mithqals in. Only about two pages long, and worth the read.
Ya Bahá'u'l-Abhá
 
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I just wanted to highlight the difference between religion and faith. For some people,political doctrine becomes a religion
 
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I just wanted to highlight the difference between religion and faith. For some people,political doctrine becomes a religion
Sadly what you say is true

I recall the surprise when told by a Catholic that tradition is more important than the Bible and Christs recorded words. sigh
 
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Sadly what you say is true

I recall the surprise when told by a Catholic that tradition is more important than the Bible and Christs recorded words. sigh
My grandmother once told me about the day she came home from school with a bible. Her father chastised her for bringing the "Protestant" book into the house. For centuries,within Catholicism, catechism was much more important than the bible. The rosary,novenae and other catholic prayers were daily worship and never scripture readings. There has to be a healthy balance
 
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My grandmother once told me about the day she came home from school with a bible. Her father chastised her for bringing the "Protestant" book into the house. For centuries,within Catholicism, catechism was much more important than the bible. The rosary,novenae and other catholic prayers were daily worship and never scripture readings. There has to be a healthy balance
I would think so, balance in all things.

My dear Grandmother (my spiritual guide for so many years.
Made sure I read my Bible each day, and now Baha'u'llah has covenanted with mankind that we must read each day the Word of God. She truly was a wise and spiritual woman, I look forward to meeting with her again.
 
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