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Old 02-19-2016, 03:45 AM   #1
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Question middle obligatory prayer

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I have a simple question. I would be glad to know the answer for:
if someone chooses to say the middle obligatory prayer everyday (which should be recited three times a day) when is the time to say the first one in the morning?
I mean can someone say that at for example 9 A.M or at any other time BEFORE noon? or should it be recited only before sunrise?
 
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Old 02-19-2016, 07:05 AM   #2
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between sunrise and noon, between noon and sunset, from sunset until two hours after sunset
 
Old 02-19-2016, 07:10 AM   #3
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I've never done the middle one. Done the long and the short, but never the middle.

Maybe I will today. Thanks for the inspiration, maryam!
 
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between sunrise and noon, between noon and sunset, from sunset until two hours after sunset
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Old 02-19-2016, 08:07 AM   #5
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I've never done the middle one. Done the long and the short, but never the middle.

Maybe I will today. Thanks for the inspiration, maryam!
to me personally, the middle one is the more interesting one. the short one is in fact TOO SHORT and the long one needs a real spiritual mood but the middle one is like recharging the spirit three times a day as soon as one is going to feel empty and waking up in the morning to say prayers looks so nice. I am too lazy to do it but I am going to give it a real try this time
 
Old 02-19-2016, 03:32 PM   #6
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to me personally, the middle one is the more interesting one. the short one is in fact TOO SHORT and the long one needs a real spiritual mood but the middle one is like recharging the spirit three times a day as soon as one is going to feel empty and waking up in the morning to say prayers looks so nice. I am too lazy to do it but I am going to give it a real try this time
Well, saying prayers when you wake up doesn't necessarily mean that you have to jump out of bed. To my understanding, it's enough if, immediately on opening one's eyes, one says a few prayerful words in order to make them one's first thoughts of the day. Sounds so easy, but the practice of remembering God before one's own bodily needs in that moment of the day takes a lifetime to practice.

And my wonderful eldest daughter, the ten-year-old tries...

And so often I tell my little ones "What is more wonderful than having a little dear one?" Answer: "Having two little dear ones."

(And that's how my thoughts go in reality. Just love those two!)

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Old 02-19-2016, 04:07 PM   #7
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Well, saying prayers when you wake up doesn't necessarily mean that you have to jump out of bed. To my understanding, it's enough if, immediately on opening one's eyes, one says a few prayerful words in order to make them one's first thoughts of the day. Sounds so easy, but the practice of remembering God before one's own bodily needs in that moment of the day takes a lifetime to practice.

And my wonderful eldest daughter, the ten-year-old tries...

And so often I tell my little ones "What is more wonderful than having a little dear one?" Answer: "Having two little dear ones."

(And that's how my thoughts go in reality. Just love those two!)

gnat
Its pretty obvious from your posting, beloved brother, that life has dealt you much trial and tribulation. However in your two wee darlings you have such a miraculous bounteous blessing for the rest of your existence in this life and the next
 
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Its pretty obvious from your posting, beloved brother, that life has dealt you much trial and tribulation. However in your two wee darlings you have such a miraculous bounteous blessing for the rest of your existence in this life and the next
Well, before I had children, "I was but a man like others, asleep upon My couch", thinking that love was that thing described by poets - love between a man and a woman. And then, out of necessity, in order to guide those little ones' souls, I had to learn how to really love my children, and what do I get back? The pure thing, which at last has taught me what love really is like - the very spirit of life, which is the same, whether it is love of God, of humanity, of one's near ones.

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Well, saying prayers when you wake up doesn't necessarily mean that you have to jump out of bed. To my understanding, it's enough if, immediately on opening one's eyes, one says a few prayerful words in order to make them one's first thoughts of the day. Sounds so easy, but the practice of remembering God before one's own bodily needs in that moment of the day takes a lifetime to practice.

And my wonderful eldest daughter, the ten-year-old tries...

And so often I tell my little ones "What is more wonderful than having a little dear one?" Answer: "Having two little dear ones."

(And that's how my thoughts go in reality. Just love those two!)

gnat
you have lovely children. I wish the best for them
and then about what you said; I agree that it is enough if after opening one's eyes in the morning the first thought which comes to the mind is prayful remembrance of God, VERY TRUE. yet, if one chooses the middle obligatory prayer then I THINK one should act according to the given times. I have heard that praying soon after sunrise has a great spiritual power because that is the time of the day in which nature starts to receive light and its daily share.
 
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