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Old 11-21-2017, 03:20 PM   #1
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Those Early Bahá'ís...

When looking back, I'm struck by the attitudes of those early Bahá'ís. Those issues that today seem to be of enoromous importance, such as homosexuality, did not impress them very much:

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Old 11-22-2017, 12:08 AM   #2
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When looking back, I'm struck by the attitudes of those early Bahá'ís. Those issues that today seem to be of enoromous importance, such as homosexuality, did not impress them very much:

Gay Today: People

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What do you think has changed?

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Old 11-22-2017, 05:25 AM   #3
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What do you think has changed?

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I think they focused on the essentials, and someone like Ali Kuli Khan had worked together with Abdu'l-Bahá - he had been influenced by Abdu'l Bahá's overwhelming love.

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He was only 16 when he revealed he was gay. There could be many reasons why he just shrugged he may have understood the person better then himself.. But yes this is interesting
 
Old 11-22-2017, 03:57 PM   #5
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Having considered this matter for a day or two, I think I have a clue. In every religious setting, there is a dichotomy – The Law versus the Spirit. Some people prefer to focus on The Law, whereas others concentrate on The Spirit.

In those early days, there hardly were any institutions, so the stress naturally was on The Spirit of the Faith. Those people who had lived close to the Master had a great advantage: they understood many things thanks to His example. They could hear Him talk about the need to renounce the world, at the same time observing how He cried aloud at night over the misfortunes that befell Him and the believers. They could hear Him talk about the need to strengthen and spread the Faith, at the same time observing how His care and love was extended to friend and foe, to believer and unbeliever alike. They could see Him take remarkable measures to alleviate the famine of the last years of WWI. Therefore, they understood the balance between The Law and The Spirit.

When Shoghi Effendi took over, his (oh, how much I’d like to write ”His” with a capital, but he would have none of that) task was to build up the administration. He was not the Examplar, although he very much could serve as an example of an entirely devoted person.

Now we have an administration, but as I see it, we still don’t have much of a clue as to its merits. I have noticed surprising tendencies. There are those who believe that many of the Writings on spiritual qualities actually concern the institutions; that it is the task of the institutions, not of the individuals, to defend the weak and downtrodden, etc.

To my mind, that is a harmful view. The institutions cannot be better than the individuals who constitute them. I believe that we are still awaiting a kind of awakening, where believers in great numbers start to follow the Master’s example, at the same time participating in the administration. In that light, I believe that we should regard The Law. A quote from Bahá’u’lláh, that has become kind of a guiding line to me, is the following:

”Love is a light, that cannot dwell in a heart possessed by fear”

I think that quote provides us with guidance for understanding the dichotomy of The Law and The Spirit. The Law should be obeyed out of love, not out of fear. There is much fear in the world. That fear also inspires many of us. We might be afraid of doing the wrong thing, of misinterpreting the texts, of not appearing as good Bahá’ís. But in the light of love, it’s so much easier. In the light of love, we realize that most laws and texts are not absolutes, but guiding lines, set out in order to assist us to become better people, necessary scaffolds for our individual tasks to develop our souls.

And, above all, the Master’s example shows us that our love should not be limited to Bahá’ís, but encompass all people. And still, we have to take caution, not to allow ourselves to be used by others, who take advantage of that love. And we have to take caution, not to allow ourselves to disregard The Law, thinking that our love is so great and valuable that we need no laws.

The dichotomy of The Law and The Spirit, over and over again…
 
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gnat: The Law should be obeyed out of love, not out of fear.

Fear is good, too. Remember the fear of God. Shoghi Effendi said this:

"You have asked the exact meaning of the term 'Fear of God' mentioned in Bahá'í Sacred Writings; it often means awe, but has also other connotations such as reverence, terror and fear."
(Compilations, Lights of Guidance, p. 237)
 
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I think they focused on the essentials, and someone like Ali Kuli Khan had worked together with Abdu'l-Bahá - he had been influenced by Abdu'l Bahá's overwhelming love. gnat
Times have indeed changed, the mind of Humanity, as a whole, is now attached to ideas far removed from the elixer offered.

It is all unfolding with more rapidity now and we watch with amazment as all what was foreseen continues to unfold.

I see more and more evidence of New World Order Thought unfolding, fed by the decaying old world order actions.

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Times have indeed changed, the mind of Humanity, as a whole, is now attached to ideas far removed from the elixer offered.

It is all unfolding with more rapidity now and we watch with amazment as all what was foreseen continues to unfold.

I see more and more evidence of New World Order Thought unfolding, fed by the decaying old world order actions.

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I wish I had your glasses, because I don't see a shred of the New, just screams from the Old.

A fascinating thing is that, many years ago, during the 1970s, the Bahá'í world was full of expectations, that the unfolding of the New World Order was imminent. But the years went by...

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I wish I had your glasses, because I don't see a shred of the New, just screams from the Old.

A fascinating thing is that, many years ago, during the 1970s, the Bahá'í world was full of expectations, that the unfolding of the New World Order was imminent. But the years went by...

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gnat..........are you referring to the world, or to the United States of America?

(edit) Just looked at your profile.....Stockholm....interesting.

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I wish I had your glasses, because I don't see a shred of the New, just screams from the Old.

A fascinating thing is that, many years ago, during the 1970s, the Bahá'í world was full of expectations, that the unfolding of the New World Order was imminent. But the years went by... gnat
I also do not see what Tony sees... I remember the 1970s too... what has happened to the Baha’is since then?

What I see in the world today, and I do not mean the Baha’is, are people who are completely lost....

Admittedly, I do not get out much, I only see people at work and on forums, but what I see is people who are attached to the material world and most are completely aloof from God... Some are concerned about the problems in the world but they think that politics is going to fix those problems.

I spend almost all of my waking hours when not at work on forums... The nonbelievers I post to are completely lost as far as having any idea who God is or how God communicates... Among the Christians and Jews I post to constantly, I see people who are mired in the past scriptures and waiting for their respective Messiahs to come and fix everything that is wrong in the world... It is very disheartening but I keep proclaiming that Baha’u’llah has come and trying to explain what we can know about God and His message for this day.

I have given up waiting for any Entry by Troops but at least I will be ready if it happens in my lifetime.

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gnat: The Law should be obeyed out of love, not out of fear.

Fear is good, too. Remember the fear of God. Shoghi Effendi said this:

"You have asked the exact meaning of the term 'Fear of God' mentioned in Bahá'í Sacred Writings; it often means awe, but has also other connotations such as reverence, terror and fear."
(Compilations, Lights of Guidance, p. 237)
Or, as the case of a son to a father, Love plus Fear equals Respect.
 
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Trailblazer,

Entry by troops began in the USA in the late 60's and early 70's when the travel teaching campaign (mostly youth) went into high gear......the fire raged across the plains. But, we were not prepared......no backup, no plan for follow-ups, not enough declaration cards in print..............seekers were left floundering (remember what it was like before the internet). People at the grass roots level proclaimed and taught, discovering souls simply waiting to hear, some even having dreamed of teachers coming.

No more need be said..........too easy to slide into back-biting, when what was NOT done missed the opportunity.

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Gnat,

Enjoyed my re-read of post #5.

Ocean search brings up quite a lot concerning the Fear of God and why it is a must in the diet of a believer.

Likewise, lose the fear of God and one will fear all things.
 
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Trailblazer, Entry by troops began in the USA in the late 60's and early 70's when the travel teaching campaign (mostly youth) went into high gear......the fire raged across the plains. But, we were not prepared......no backup, no plan for follow-ups, not enough declaration cards in print..............seekers were left floundering (remember what it was like before the internet). People at the grass roots level proclaimed and taught, discovering souls simply waiting to hear, some even having dreamed of teachers coming.

No more need be said..........too easy to slide into back-biting, when what was NOT done missed the opportunity. FCM
I am sorry but I do not recall that because shortly after I became a Baha'i in 1970, I went into my own hell and did not participate in hardly any Baha'i activities, let alone teaching activities... I guess maybe I was one of those who came in hurriedly and then got left behind, but that was unrelated to my own personal problems I was having at that time....

So what I guess you are saying that Entry by Troops came and went and because Baha'is were not confirmed after they came in they just drifted away? Some of us of course did not drop out and some are still active in the Faith. I am still not active in the community but I am trying to do something online since that is the best use of my abilities.

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Old 11-25-2017, 03:27 AM   #15
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I wish I had your glasses, because I don't see a shred of the New, just screams from the Old.

A fascinating thing is that, many years ago, during the 1970s, the Bahá'í world was full of expectations, that the unfolding of the New World Order was imminent. But the years went by...

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Dear Gnat. The new thoughts have permeated many minds, but we have not found our unity. While minds work as individuals, the ability to give power to collective thought remains untapped.

A good example is the supression of rouge nations as per the guidance of Baha'u'llah. You can see the effort of a single Nation or a few together to undertake this task, people know it needs to be done, but mind remains in disunity. It needs the collective minds of many Nations.

The United Nations remains toothless while Nations are abstaining from votes on needed actions.

I hear many speeches on the news that contain the guidance given by Baha'u'llah from the most surprising sources.

It appears we are fast approaching a time of great change. I am always amazed how that change unfolds. The wave of Athiest thought now bringing great challenges to many people who claim to have Faith, shaking strong, long held views.

It is all good Gnat, I hope your little gems are well and happy and shining bright and that you are well and happy.

Regards Tony
 
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So what I guess you are saying that Entry by Troops came and went and because Baha'is were not confirmed after they came in they just drifted away? Some of us of course did not drop out and some are still active in the Faith. I am still not active in the community but I am trying to do something online since that is the best use of my abilities.

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What we have learned as a global Baha'i community is that entry by troops is a process that happens when the conditions exist for it and so we need to focus on creating those conditions. That has been the focus of the Plans over the past 20 years, and we see it bearing fruit in certain places around the world, some of those are now getting local Houses of Worship, which will act to further the process. Let's all pray that it may happen everywhere.
 
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I hope your little gems are well and happy and shining bright and that you are well and happy.

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Honestly, Tony, it is only on the micro level that I see real, substantial changes. Today, for the first time for many years, my little darlings could go to a cafe with both their parents, my ex wife and I being absolutely united in everything that concerns them, showing that we have concluded a real and lasting peace agreement.

That's the kind of things I belive in. Working with high-conflict custody cases, my children are my most important sources of inspiration: they have shown, in an unwavering manner, that they want both a father and a mother in their lives.

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What we have learned as a global Baha'i community is that entry by troops is a process that happens when the conditions exist for it and so we need to focus on creating those conditions. That has been the focus of the Plans over the past 20 years, and we see it bearing fruit in certain places around the world, some of those are now getting local Houses of Worship, which will act to further the process. Let's all pray that it may happen everywhere.
I am not sure what you mean, creating those conditions? How do the the Baha'is create conditions in the world?

Sorry, but since I have not been involved in the Baha'i community for decades i do not know the focus of the Plans. I tend to think that teaching is the most important thing we can ever do, given what Baha'u'llah wrote, so I do my own thing. If there was any teaching going on in my area I might consider being a part of it, but it seems as if nobody thinks it matters anymore.

I go more by what Baha'u'llah wrote than by any injunctions of the UHJ... Is what He wrote now outdated or are Baha'is simply unaware of it? Am I taking it too seriously, too literally? The following is just one passage of many:

“O ye beloved of God! Repose not yourselves on your couches, nay bestir yourselves as soon as ye recognize your Lord, the Creator, and hear of the things which have befallen Him, and hasten to His assistance. Unloose your tongues, and proclaim unceasingly His Cause. This shall be better for you than all the treasures of the past and of the future, if ye be of them that comprehend this truth.” Gleanings From the Writings of Baha'u'llah, p. 330

So many nonbelievers and also Christians and Jews wonder why the Baha'i Faith is still so small in numbers, given that we have mass communications. I know numbers are not everything but I do not know exactly what to say, except that the Plans set forth by the Baha'i Administration have all been accomplished.

But take the Mormons for example, there are twice as many Mormons in the world as Baha'is. I tend to think one reason is the way they promote their Faith, but another reason might be that Mormonism is really an offshoot to Christianity so it appeals to Christians whereas the Baha'i is Faith in competition with Christianity, or so most Christians think.

~~ Trailblazer
 
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Honestly, Tony, it is only on the micro level that I see real, substantial changes. Today, for the first time for many years, my little darlings could go to a cafe with both their parents, my ex wife and I being absolutely united in everything that concerns them, showing that we have concluded a real and lasting peace agreement.

That's the kind of things I belive in. Working with high-conflict custody cases, my children are my most important sources of inspiration: they have shown, in an unwavering manner, that they want both a father and a mother in their lives.

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That's great Gnat, good to hear about that with your family. That is indeed very special.

As to the changes, I see it is our mindset that attributes to our inability to see Gods Plan unfolding on a greater scale. I have got these thoughts from trying to understand what both the Bab and Baha'u'llah gave written on Negation and Affirmation. The 'Bayan' contains some thoughts, as does a few of Baha'u'llahs writings such as "Commentary on a Verse of Rumi".

These two quotes give thought;

"In the previous dispensation of Islam, the witness to faith stated that "No God is there but He" (la ilaha illa huwa). The first word, "la" or "no," is negative, and it precedes the positive affirmation of God's peerlessness. Thus, in the Islamic dispensation and its wake, the "letters of negation" have triumphed over the "letters of affirmation" in the outward world. But although in the exoteric domain things are contrary to the will of the Manifestations of God, esoterically everything is occurring according to the divine will..."

Thus we still live in the wake of 'Negation', which we are to turn into 'Affirmation'.

"...In the Baha'i dispensation, however, God has removed the negative particle from before the affirmation. That is, Baha'is say "He is God," rather than "No God is there but He." This switch from precedence for the negative to precedence for the positive is apparently an omen for a brighter future in the new dispensation, and presumably a closer accord between the exoteric and esoteric worlds. The context here is the continuing negative influence of the Islamic "No!" on the Babi-Baha'is situation, such that Baha'u'llah is afflicted by tribulations, and says, "a person [Azal] whom we raised over months and years with the hand of compassion once attempted to kill me...."".

I see we still see and live in our lives much 'negation', Baha'u'llah came and Lived Affirmation and then gave us Abdul'baha for a gift in that Affirmation. There is nothing that happens that is not directing our Hearts to Affirmation. God never tests a soul/s beyond its/their capacity, all that happens is for our good, to help us be rid of our worldly self.

Materialism has sapped our strength in self, like clawing our way out of a large sink hole. I think when we find what is contained within Affirmation, we will fly out of that sink hole.

Personally I am still clawing my way.....now I think that is Negation..

Should I think we have been given the wings and that all I have to do is now fly?

Regards Tony
 
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I am not sure what you mean, creating those conditions? How do the the Baha'is create conditions in the world?
Living the life, active service and finding the power of change in unity.

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Sorry, but since I have not been involved in the Baha'i community for decades i do not know the focus of the Plans. I tend to think that teaching is the most important thing we can ever do, given what Baha'u'llah wrote, so I do my own thing. If there was any teaching going on in my area I might consider being a part of it, but it seems as if nobody thinks it matters anymore.
My wife and I have been remote for most of our Baha'i Life and have had many issues because of this. I have always appreciated this quote;

"....Abdu’l-Bahá said: Those who are working alone are like ants, but when they are united they will become as eagles. Those who work singly are as drops, but, when united, they will become a vast river carrying the cleansing water of life into the barren desert places of the world. Before the power of its rushing flood, neither misery, nor sorrow, nor any grief will be able to stand. Be united! It is rather dangerous to be an isolated drop. It might be spilled or blown away..." (Lady Blomfield, The Chosen Highway, p. 171)

We can attest to the accuracy of that advice. This Faith has power in Unity, not as individuals.

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I go more by what Baha'u'llah wrote than by any injunctions of the UHJ... Is what He wrote now outdated or are Baha'is simply unaware of it? Am I taking it too seriously, too literally? The following is just one passage of many:

“O ye beloved of God! Repose not yourselves on your couches, nay bestir yourselves as soon as ye recognize your Lord, the Creator, and hear of the things which have befallen Him, and hasten to His assistance. Unloose your tongues, and proclaim unceasingly His Cause. This shall be better for you than all the treasures of the past and of the future, if ye be of them that comprehend this truth.” Gleanings From the Writings of Baha'u'llah, p. 330
The key here is that the Universal House of Justice is Baha'u'llah's Purpose, what comes from the Universal House of Justice, is Baha'u'llah's Purpose. So in this case, we use this advice from Baha'u'llah you posted above and actively join in the activities that the Universal House of Justice has sanctioned.

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So many nonbelievers and also Christians and Jews wonder why the Baha'i Faith is still so small in numbers, given that we have mass communications. I know numbers are not everything but I do not know exactly what to say, except that the Plans set forth by the Baha'i Administration have all been accomplished.
This is a good reflection to have, why indeed have we not grown. I would suggest we have not let go of Materialisim "...Consider to what a remarkable extent the spirituality of people has been overcome by materialism so that spiritual susceptibility seems to have vanished, divine civilization become decadent, and guidance and knowledge of God no longer remain. All are submerged in the sea of materialism....The purpose of this is to explain that the darkness of imitations encompasses the world. Every nation is holding to its traditional religious forms. The light of reality is obscured. Were these various nations to investigate reality, there is no doubt they would attain to it. As reality is one, all nations would then become as one nation. So long as they adhere to various imitations and are deprived of reality, strife and warfare will continue and rancor and sedition prevail. If they investigate reality, neither enmity nor rancor will remain, and they will attain to the utmost concord among themselves."(`Abdu'l-Baha: Promulgation of Universal Peace, Page: 221-222)

The Baha'is are not exempt from the influence of Materialism and this has been reflected in our progress as a Faith of Unity.

This takes great personal reflection, but most of all, and the hardest thing to do, is make the required change.

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But take the Mormons for example, there are twice as many Mormons in the world as Baha'is. I tend to think one reason is the way they promote their Faith, but another reason might be that Mormonism is really an offshoot to Christianity so it appeals to Christians whereas the Baha'i is Faith in competition with Christianity, or so most Christians think. ~~ Trailblazer
Personally I see each of these Faiths have done One or two things very well in a Unity of Effort and it is that Unity that attracts. The JW's a great example of the power of Unity of effort.

There are remote JW's where I live and they have a constant stream of Support. As Baha'i's we see no other Baha'i's years at a time, unless we head to the Cities. There is one example how Baha'is have not let go of Materialism. Millions in Cities, very few where receptivity to the Faith is higher.

As Baha'is we are thinly spread and are trying to do many things which is building a great attractive force, long term this will bring greater results, but short term seems to yield no results.

So yes, we have to look at our own selves when we consider why the Faith appears not to have grown.

Regards Tony
 
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I also do not see what Tony sees... I remember the 1970s too... what has happened to the Baha’is since then?

What I see in the world today, and I do not mean the Baha’is, are people who are completely lost....

Admittedly, I do not get out much, I only see people at work and on forums, but what I see is people who are attached to the material world and most are completely aloof from God... Some are concerned about the problems in the world but they think that politics is going to fix those problems.

I spend almost all of my waking hours when not at work on forums... The nonbelievers I post to are completely lost as far as having any idea who God is or how God communicates... Among the Christians and Jews I post to constantly, I see people who are mired in the past scriptures and waiting for their respective Messiahs to come and fix everything that is wrong in the world... It is very disheartening but I keep proclaiming that Baha’u’llah has come and trying to explain what we can know about God and His message for this day.

I have given up waiting for any Entry by Troops but at least I will be ready if it happens in my lifetime.

Sincerely, Trailblazer
Friend, to spend all of your waking hours on fora is neither healthy nor productive. Please think about this.
 
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Thanks for your concern.

How do you know how productive it is? Only God can ever know what is in the hearts and minds of those I post to or what the end result will be. I do not know and that is not my concern. I just do what Baha’u’llah enjoined me to do. I take that very seriously.

My personal happiness is not a concern of mine. I am happy whenever I am proclaiming or teaching the Faith. Everything else pales by comparison.

Only living things such as animals really matter and my husband and I take good care of those. Other things that need to get done do get done.

I no longer have any interest in the material world of dust, and nowhere did Baha’u’llah enjoin us to partake of it any more than is necessary. Although Baha’u’llah allowed us to enjoy “the good things” the world has to offer, that is not the same thing as enjoining us to partake of those things. I prefer to do what is enjoined rather than what is allowed.

I take care of my health and I am in very good health except that I need more sleep. However.....

“If the health and well-being of the body be expended in the path of the Kingdom, this is very acceptable and praiseworthy; and if it is expended to the benefit of the human world in general—even though it be to their material benefit and be a means of doing good—that is also acceptable. But if the health and welfare of man be spent in sensual desires, in a life on the animal plane, and in devilish pursuits—then disease is better than such health; nay, death itself is preferable to such a life. If thou art desirous of health, wish thou health for serving the Kingdom. I hope thou mayest attain a perfect insight, an inflexible resolution, a complete health and spiritual and physical strength in order that thou mayest drink from the fountain of eternal life and be assisted by the spirit of divine confirmation.” Bahá’í World Faith, p. 376

People can serve the Kingdom in many ways. Not everyone is cut out for teaching the Faith and people can do so in various degrees and in various ways. Likewise, not all people are cut out for administrative work or children’s classes, etc. By having a variety of different kinds of personalities and skills in the Baha’i community we can accomplish what needs to be done.

~~~ Trailblazer
 
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My wife and I have been remote for most of our Baha'i Life and have had many issues because of this. I have always appreciated this quote;

"....Abdu’l-Bahá said: Those who are working alone are like ants, but when they are united they will become as eagles. Those who work singly are as drops, but, when united, they will become a vast river carrying the cleansing water of life into the barren desert places of the world. Before the power of its rushing flood, neither misery, nor sorrow, nor any grief will be able to stand. Be united! It is rather dangerous to be an isolated drop. It might be spilled or blown away..." (Lady Blomfield, The Chosen Highway, p. 171)

We can attest to the accuracy of that advice. This Faith has power in Unity, not as individuals.
Whereas that is generally true, not all people are cut out for community activities or able to participate in them, given their life circumstances. Everyone is a unique individual. Right now it is really impossible for me to participate in the Baha’i community for personal reasons, but that does not mean that will always be the case... Meanwhile, I consider proclaiming and teaching the Faith the highest priority, given what Baha’u’llah wrote, which can be found throughout Gleanings... I do my best work when I am alone.

“Be not grieved if thou performest it thyself alone. Let God be all-sufficient for thee. Commune intimately with His Spirit, and be thou of the thankful. Proclaim the Cause of thy Lord unto all who are in the heavens and on the earth. Should any man respond to thy call, lay bare before him the pearls of the wisdom of the Lord, thy God, which His Spirit hath sent down unto thee, and be thou of them that truly believe. And should any one reject thine offer, turn thou away from him, and put thy trust and confidence in the Lord, thy God, the Lord of all worlds.” Gleanings From the Writings of Bahá’u’lláh, p. 280

I would like to respond to some more of your post but I just got four new posts on other forums so I have to run for now...

~~ Sincerely, Trailblazer
 
Old 11-25-2017, 09:44 PM   #24
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Whereas that is generally true, not all people are cut out for community activities or able to participate in them, given their life circumstances. Everyone is a unique individual. Right now it is really impossible for me to participate in the Baha’i community for personal reasons, but that does not mean that will always be the case... Meanwhile, I consider proclaiming and teaching the Faith the highest priority, given what Baha’u’llah wrote, which can be found throughout Gleanings... I do my best work when I am alone.

“Be not grieved if thou performest it thyself alone. Let God be all-sufficient for thee. Commune intimately with His Spirit, and be thou of the thankful. Proclaim the Cause of thy Lord unto all who are in the heavens and on the earth. Should any man respond to thy call, lay bare before him the pearls of the wisdom of the Lord, thy God, which His Spirit hath sent down unto thee, and be thou of them that truly believe. And should any one reject thine offer, turn thou away from him, and put thy trust and confidence in the Lord, thy God, the Lord of all worlds.” Gleanings From the Writings of Bahá’u’lláh, p. 280

I would like to respond to some more of your post but I just got four new posts on other forums so I have to run for now...

~~ Sincerely, Trailblazer
All good, as I also think we are where we need to be, a bounty of Baha'u'llah.

I like to remember we are never alone and none of our best work, is our work. I know you know that.

Regards Tony
 
Old 11-25-2017, 11:21 PM   #25
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All good, as I also think we are where we need to be, a bounty of Baha'u'llah.

I like to remember we are never alone and none of our best work, is our work. I know you know that.
Thanks for understanding. No, I am not alone.
 
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