aidan

uring a discussion with my Baha'i study partner she said that she believed that we would be travelling through the other worlds of God forall eternity.I said thatI believed that we traveled through the other worlds until God decided when we should rest in His presence.My friend would not accept it.What do you believe?

cire perdue

I suggest looking for sources for the statements.

As regards the afterlife, we cannot comprehend it anyway, so it is as it is, and He doeth whatsoever He pleaseth.

arthra

I agree with the last post.. We tend to attempt to conceptualize what is beyond our capacity.. It's natural to do that.. but maybe we should be humble and say it is only our personal view...

I like the following selections...

Believe in God; turn unto the Supreme Kingdom; be attracted unto the Beauty of ABHA; remain firm in the Covenant; yearn for ascending unto the heaven of the sun of the universe; be disinterested in the world; be alive with the fragrances of holiness in the Kingdom of the Highest; be a caller of love; kind to the human race; gentle with humanity; interested in all the people of the world; wish for harmony and seek friendship and honesty. Be a healing for ever wound, a remedy for every sick, a source of harmony among the people; chant the verses of guidance; pray to God; arise for the guidance of the people; let thy tongue explain and thy face illumine with the glowing of the love of God. Rest not a moment and breathe not a breath of repose until thou becomest a sign of God's love and a banner of God's favor.

~ Abdu'l-Baha, Tablets of Abdu'l-Baha v1, p. 98

Read this prayer:

Verily, I received thy good and beautiful letter and I found it to be a sign of thy love and an evidence of thy being attracted to the Beauty of El-ABHA. I ask God to make thee a caller to the Kingdom of El-ABHA, in those regions; to give thee a draught of the wine of grace, to attract thee to the center of guidance, to cause thee to ascend unto the Supreme World and to confirm thee by the fragrances of the Holy spirit, until thou mayest guide the people unto the kingdom of immortality, revive the hearts by the fragrances of God and plant the seed of guidance in the field of the souls, by a help from thy Lord, the Merciful, the Clement.

~ Abdu'l-Baha, Tablets of Abdu'l-Baha v1, p. 109

Robertus

To me, the afterlife is where the spirit ascends and continues to evolve until it has become what god wants it to be. Then we will be with him in the deepest sense.

aidan

I can endorse that thought Robertus I can also agree wth the thought that it is a divine mistery and what God wants it to be so why worry about it

cire perdue

We can not comprehend it.

aidan

hpe its not a mysery CP

Seeroos

If you truly want to know about the Afterlife, it's explained here: http://www.alislam.org/library/books...s-of-Islam.pdf

Seeroos

If you truly want to know about the Afterlife,, it's explained here: http://www.alislam.org/library/books...s-of-Islam.pdf

LordOfGoblins

The nature of the afterlife is veiled from us. That is the decree of God. Baha'u'llah explains this but I dont have ocean to provide the quote, I think it is from Ruhi book 1. But if we knew basically it would change how people act and the whole foundation of religion would be changed. Why search for God and to recognise his prophet when you already know what is install for you. If we where aware of the after life everyone would say "I believe".

Prodaytrader

Isn't there a story of Bahu'll'ah giving someone a taste of the afterlife at which point he turned around and killed himself to quicken his journey? Knowing anything about the afterlife defeats our purpose here. Then again I rarely grasp my purpose here so I'm pretty much ready for the afterlife now!!!

cire perdue

I am certain you are still here, because God is not through with you yet. You'll find a purpose. Don't you have children that want money? Besides I'm having severe financial difficulties, I still have that beach front property in Arizona, afterlife, I mean afterall.............

Nightingale

The nature of the soul is veiled from us, forever. The Afterlife is described somewhat in the Qur'an.

Baha'u'llah never said that the Afterlife cannot be described. He said the nature of the soul can "never" be described not now not in eternity.

Shaykh Ahmad gave lengthy descriptions of the Afterlife in His works, which are in Arabic.

'Abdu'l-Baha mentioned seeing Mollah Akbar, an early Baha'i, in a dream. Akbar was fat in life, and 'Abdu'l-Baha asked Mollah Akbar why he was fatter in Paradise. Mollah Akbar replied that the food and drink were better in Paradise than on our world. Was this just a "story" or did 'Abdu'l-Baha really see Mollah Akbar in Paradise?

Shi'a Islaam describes Paradise as like a Garden of Eden, where there is drinking, eating, music, dancing, and SEX....but much better than our world.

cire perdue

Your stories seem questionable and you are not giving sources.

LordOfGoblins

Never said the afterlife cannot be described. Baha'u'llah simply said it was not appropriate to describe it.

"Know thou that every hearing ear, if kept pure and undefiled, must, at all times and from every direction, hearken to the voice that uttereth these holy words: "Verily, we are God's, and to Him shall we return." The mysteries of man's physical death and of his return have not been divulged, and still remain unread. By the righteousness of God! Were they to be revealed, they would evoke such fear and sorrow that some would perish, while others would be so filled with gladness as to wish for death, and beseech, with unceasing longing, the one true God -- exalted be His glory -- to hasten their end.

(Baha'u'llah, Gleanings from the Writings of Baha'u'llah, p. 343)"

...Such a soul liveth and moveth in accordance with the Will of its Creator, and entereth the all-highest Paradise. The Maids of Heaven, inmates of the loftiest mansions, will circle around it, and the Prophets of God and His chosen ones will seek its companionship. With them that soul will freely converse, and will recount unto them that which it hath been made to endure in the path of God, the Lord of all worlds. If any man be told that which hath been ordained for such a soul in the worlds of God, the Lord of the throne on high and of earth below, his whole being will instantly blaze out in his great longing to attain that most exalted, that sanctified and resplendent station.... The nature of the soul after death can never be described, nor is it meet and permissible to reveal its whole character to the eyes of men

(Baha'u'llah, Gleanings from the Writings of Baha'u'llah, p. 155)