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Old 11-24-2013, 01:07 PM   #1
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Looking back, and learning from the past

Much is said here of the sickness of society, also of religions, that allow hate and bigotry etc to flourish. The whole world is the same, no one can only point at the USA or indeed a part of the USA. So have the people changed, have they become more united, this is something for all to read the following prayers and consider.

After the assignation of JF Kennedy. Here are excerpts from their sermons, compiled by the Bridwell Library at SMU’s Perkins School of Theology:

The Rev. William H. Dickinson
Highland Park Methodist Church
“It is not only that our city has been betrayed by an assassin’s bullet; it is that our God has been betrayed, not only in Dallas, but throughout our nation and around the world by irresponsible and indifferent and selfish men. Today our intellectual and moral fiber is being tried as never before, and by its trial will be revealed our true dependence upon the God whose world we either honor or destroy.”
“How, then, do we pray today? For what do we pray? We pray to a God who is still at work in his world. We pray with a faith that calls us to a new dedication to law and order. We pray for the ability to be responsible citizens, characterized by orderliness, restraint and courage. And we pray for a world where our human, selfish motivations will be brought under the judgment of God and our concerns broadened far beyond our city to all mankind.”

The Rev. James S. Cox
Episcopal Church of the Incarnation
“But this mean and furtive shot from a mail-order rifle with a telescopic sight from a hidden place, this sickening violation of law and authority as we know it, this vulgar spitting on the symbols that represent our life and ideals, this contempt for three hundred years of American history . . . this makes the soul simply shake in fury.”

The Rev. Charles V. Denman
Wesley Methodist Church
“We have lost a great leader and we can only hope that the death of this great man will shock a nation that has grown greedy and selfish and complacent into the realization of how sick it really is and how desperately it needs to fall on its knees in repentance. Our nation is sick unto death and nothing but repentance will save it, and the church cannot stand aloof from the sickness of the nation. The church is sick unto death, too. Sometimes I think the church is like a diseased tonsil, put in the body to trap infection and it has become a source of infection.
“Much of the hate and discord that has been poisoning our nation has been preached in the name of Christ and the church. In Dallas entire sermons have been devoted to damning the Kennedy administration and the United Nations, and they have been delivered from Methodist pulpits. In the name of the church, men and women have sown seeds of discord, distrust and hate and have called it witnessing for Christ. As a church we are sick. God have mercy on us.”

The Rev. William A. Holmes
Northaven Methodist Church
“Here is the hardest thing to say: there is no city in the United States which in recent months and years has been more acquiescent toward its extremists than Dallas, Texas. We, the majority of citizens, have gone quietly about our work and leisure, forfeiting the city’s image to the hate mongers and reactionaries in our midst. The spirit of assassination has been with us for some time. Not manifest in bullets but in spitting mouths and political invectives.”
“John Kennedy is dead; killed two days ago in our own city. If Dallas, Texas, rises from this monstrous moment in her history, a new city where different political opinions and the people who hold them are respected, then John Kennedy will not have died in vain.”

The Rev. Lively Brown
First Methodist Church, Georgetown, Texas
“Today a nation mourns. It is mourning that crosses the boundary of Protestant, Catholic and Jew. It mourns for its first elected Catholic president, for one who gave evidence for justice and love for all men regardless of race or creed. So with the background of a senseless act so seemingly without rhyme or reason, I pray it would united us as a people under God for the purpose for which we are called.”

Methodist Bishop William C. Martin
Pastoral letter, Nov. 30, 1963
“What does God require of us in this time of nationwide sorrow and of re-appraisal of values? God’s call is upon us as individuals Christians to examine our lives in the light of Christ’s teaching and example to see if there is any evil thought or purpose in us. Each of us can determine that, by the grace of Christ, he will become and remain not part of the problem but a part of God’s remedy. The prayer of St. Francis is fitting for each of us: ‘Lord, make me an instrument of thy peace.’”

Jimmy Allen, Secretary of the Christian Life Commission, Baptist General Convention of Texas
Nov. 28, 1963
“Seldom has the relevance of our churches in contemporary society been so seriously questioned and challenged as in these last few days. In a city boasting of the largest congregations of three or four different denominations, a crowd shouts with glee over the news of the murder of an assassin. The demand for a penetration of society with the witness of a relevant Christian gospel was never as great.”
“The demands of these days will be great. Hatred’s bonds will not evaporate. They must be cut through one step at a time with the intensity of the torch of Christian love. Hate must be rooted out on each form in which it has fixed itself upon our nation. Extremism must be rejected not just in a great declaration but in a constant dedication.”
Willis M. Tate, President of Southern Methodist University
University Convocation, Nov. 26, 1963
“Wherever there is a sin and injustice, the church must call us to repentance.
“Wherever there is hatred, fear and suspicion, the church must call us to repentance and reconciliation. Wherever there is lethargy and disloyalty through in action to our noble faith, the church must call us to repentance and action.”
“All great social philosophy is born in crisis. As we rise from our knees to join all Dallas citizens, both individual and corporate, in our task ahead, what do we say? What do we do? How do we pray? Although mindful of our mistakes, shortcomings, inadequacies, this, now, is no time for continued vindictiveness. It is no time for scapegoating. It is no time for self-basement and breast-beating. It is a time for re-evaluation, for moral and spiritual vitality, and for the rational wisdom that tells us of those things that are valid, true, eternal, vital, important and beautiful.”

Rabbi Levi A. Olan, Temple Emanu-El
Jan. 19, 1964
“What should Dallas do now? For its psychological well being it ought to accept blame and responsibility for its behavior and act upon that now. It is getting later all the time. Its moral climate needs some lifting up so that it can rise above the fourth level of values which determines all things by, “what is there in it for me?” The church and synagogue are charged with the responsibility of talking to the people, not reflecting their present values. Perhaps to paraphrase the late President, our value system in Dallas ought to be, “ask not what Dallas can do for me – but what can I do for Dallas?”

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Dallas Pastors Deliver Sermons In Wake Of JFK Assassination
 
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Old 11-24-2013, 01:36 PM   #2
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Leaders of Religion are Lowest of the Low, trust me on this. Days of religion have ended . Most people don't care about religion:

"In another sense, by these terms is intended the divines of the former Dispensation, who live in the days of the subsequent Revelations, and who hold the reins of religion in their grasp. If these divines be illumined by the light of the latter Revelation they will be acceptable unto God, and will shine with a light everlasting. Otherwise, they will be declared as darkened, even though to outward seeming they be leaders of men, inasmuch as belief and unbelief, guidance and error, felicity and misery, light and darkness, are all dependent upon the sanction of Him Who is the Day-star of Truth. Whosoever among the divines of every age receiveth, in the Day of Reckoning, the testimony of faith from the Source of true knowledge, he verily becometh the recipient of learning, of divine favour, and of the light of true understanding. Otherwise, he is branded as guilty of folly, denial, blasphemy, and oppression." - Baha'u'llah

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Old 11-24-2013, 01:46 PM   #3
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We are in the midst of a change in human consciousness -- imitate not the ways of the Prophetic Cycle.



"The All-Knowing Physician hath His finger on the pulse of mankind. He perceiveth the disease, and prescribeth, in His unerring wisdom, the remedy. Every age hath its own problem, and every soul its particular aspiration. The remedy the world needeth in its present-day afflictions can never be the same as that which a subsequent age may require. Be anxiously concerned with the needs of the age ye live in, and centre your deliberations on its exigencies and requirements."
 
Old 11-24-2013, 02:21 PM   #4
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Leaders of Religion are Lowest of the Low, trust me on this. Days of religion have ended . Most people don't care about religion:

"In another sense, by these terms is intended the divines of the former Dispensation, who live in the days of the subsequent Revelations, and who hold the reins of religion in their grasp. If these divines be illumined by the light of the latter Revelation they will be acceptable unto God, and will shine with a light everlasting. Otherwise, they will be declared as darkened, even though to outward seeming they be leaders of men, inasmuch as belief and unbelief, guidance and error, felicity and misery, light and darkness, are all dependent upon the sanction of Him Who is the Day-star of Truth. Whosoever among the divines of every age receiveth, in the Day of Reckoning, the testimony of faith from the Source of true knowledge, he verily becometh the recipient of learning, of divine favour, and of the light of true understanding. Otherwise, he is branded as guilty of folly, denial, blasphemy, and oppression." - Baha'u'llah
Dear Friend

Such sweeping statements you make, I feel you must be young in years.
As your wonderful quote says, Baha'u'llah speaks of two different types of divines.

But you say
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Leaders of Religion are Lowest of the Low, trust me on this
Much as I love to read your posts, I trust only in Baha'u'llah as the Voice of God in this Day of Days.
 
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