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Old 11-11-2016, 03:25 AM   #1
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A Hard Time for Many Bahá'ís

Many Bahá'ís have identified the liberal, political New World Order with our New World Order. That tendency has been quite strong for several decades. Now, when the present world order is at stake, there is a rather strong bad mood among Bahá'ís. Well, free trade and the present arrangements for international cooperation are being questioned. It is good to keep in mind that our Faith doesn't stand and fall with any kind of political constructs.

I could write at length on this topic - it could even turn into a book, if I felt so inclined, but given the the present state of this site, I think Iwill stop here.

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Old 11-11-2016, 04:45 AM   #2
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Whatsoever occurreth in the world of being is light for His loved ones and fire for the people of sedition and strife. Even if all the losses of the world were to be sustained by one of the friends of God, he would still profit thereby, whereas true loss would be borne by such as are wayward, ignorant and contemptuous. Although the author of the following saying had intended it otherwise, yet We find it pertinent to the operation of God's immutable Will:

"Even or odd, thou shalt win the wager." The friends of God shall win and profit under all conditions, and shall attain true wealth. In fire they remain cold, and from water they emerge dry. Their affairs are at variance with the affairs of men. Gain is their lot, whatever the deal. To this testifieth every wise one with a discerning eye, and every fair-minded one with a hearing ear.

(Bahá'u'lláh, from a Tablet translated from the Persian)
 
Old 11-11-2016, 07:02 AM   #3
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I personally think, as it is currently structured, the UN is not an organization able to bring about the sort of Baha'i world union that we're looking for. Unity in Diversity is the key to establishing World Unity. Most of the power structures of this day and age are based in the inferior Unity in Conformity. We may have to see those structures break down before we can build back up Unity in a Baha'i fashion.

Nevertheless, the world is always moving forward and we'll see how it all plays out knowing it will work eventually.
 
Old 11-11-2016, 08:46 AM   #4
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Originally Posted by Gnat
Many Bahá'ís have identified the liberal, political New World Order with our New World Order.
Do Baha'is really think this ?

I mean, it is obviously not the case, because :

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Consider the civilization of the West, how it hath agitated and alarmed the peoples of the world. An infernal engine hath been devised, and hath proved so cruel a weapon of destruction that its like none hath ever witnessed or heard. The purging of such deeply-rooted and overwhelming corruptions cannot be effected unless the peoples of the world unite in pursuit of one common aim and embrace one universal faith. Incline your ears unto the Call of this Wronged One and adhere firmly to the Lesser Peace.
Words of Paradise, §30
 
Old 11-11-2016, 06:51 PM   #5
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I must say I know no Baha'i that thinks this?

I do know a lot working at Building Communities for the Future while we move towards the Lesser Peace.

The Old World Order is still rolling up.

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Old 11-12-2016, 05:06 AM   #6
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I think Baha'is have an opportunity and a responsibility to provide a healing message for people that are feeling disappointed and scared for the world.

Also, especially for those Baha'is who were feeling that the political system was leading the world in the "right direction" with the EU, to unify Europe, with Obama trying to slow climate change and promote democracy, equality and sustainable development, we see these things were never totally working, and now appear to be sliding backward, due to the results of very close elections that show deep divides in society.

We need to heal the divides in society, not support one side, even if silently, without "participating in politics."
 
Old 11-15-2016, 10:49 AM   #7
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i think baha'is have an opportunity and a responsibility to provide a healing message for people that are feeling disappointed and scared for the world.

Also, especially for those baha'is who were feeling that the political system was leading the world in the "right direction" with the eu, to unify europe, with obama trying to slow climate change and promote democracy, equality and sustainable development, we see these things were never totally working, and now appear to be sliding backward, due to the results of very close elections that show deep divides in society.

We need to heal the divides in society, not support one side, even if silently, without "participating in politics."


agree!!!!
 
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