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Old 06-25-2017, 06:03 AM   #1
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Requirements on giving

Hello all,

Yes another question. Yes i'm full of them

I know that Baha'is only accept money from Bahai's. so what is the protocol on giving? is there a set amount how often and where does the money go besides building temples around the world.
 
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Old 06-25-2017, 07:22 AM   #2
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Baha'is only give money from Baha'is?! who says? we have Bahais working for non-Baha'is and they are payed for it.
in case of giving money, we are forbidden to give money to beggars (those who chose beggary as their job!). in other cases, like financial help to anyone we like in any form we like, I think we are free to do as our wish and in fact we have to help others as much as we can.
 
Old 06-25-2017, 07:47 AM   #3
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Oh ok i thought it was a requirement to contribute to the faith. thank you for correcting me.
 
Old 06-25-2017, 12:29 PM   #4
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Hello all,

Yes another question. Yes i'm full of them

I know that Baha'is only accept money from Bahai's. so what is the protocol on giving? is there a set amount how often and where does the money go besides building temples around the world.

Yes you are correct. Only a Baha'i can donate to the funds of this Cause. There are many guidelines also given hiw a Baha'i can raise funds for the cause.

As to what to donate, that is left 100% up to each person.

We are asked to study the importance of funds for the cause and then willingly give to the funds in the spirit of Sacrafice.

It is not the amount that is important, it is the spirit in which it is given that matters.

So a rich man giving 1 million dollars, but contains no personal Sacrafice to do so, does not have the spirit of a poor person giving one dollar which may be their next meal.

It is the later that Baha'u'llah calls us to consider.

Local fund distribution are decided upon by Local Spiritual Assemblies. Like wise for National Funds. Most of these funds are spent on teaching activities. Sorry no time to guve big explanation. Off to work.

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Old 06-26-2017, 02:09 PM   #5
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Oh ok i thought it was a requirement to contribute to the faith. thank you for correcting me.
See law on huquqh, " the right of God"
 
Old 06-26-2017, 04:48 PM   #6
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Is this what you are referring to?



3. “SHOULD ANYONE ACQUIRE ONE HUNDRED MITHQÁLS OF GOLD,…”

Should anyone acquire one hundred mithqáls of gold, nineteen mithqáls thereof are God’s and to be rendered unto Him, the Fashioner of earth and heaven. Take heed, O people, lest ye deprive yourselves of so great a bounty. This We have commanded you, though We are well able to dispense with you and with all who are in the heavens and on earth; in it there are benefits and wisdoms beyond the ken of anyone but God, the Omniscient, the All-Informed. Say: By this means He hath desired to purify what ye possess and to enable you to draw nigh unto such stations as none can comprehend save those whom God hath willed. He, in truth, is the Beneficent, the Gracious, the Bountiful. O people! Deal not faithlessly with the Right of God, nor, without His leave, make free with its disposal. Thus hath His commandment been established in the holy Tablets, and in this exalted Book. He who dealeth faithlessly with God shall in justice meet with faithlessness himself; he, however, who acteth in accordance with God’s bidding shall receive a blessing from the heaven of the bounty of his Lord, the Gracious, the Bestower, the Generous, the Ancient of Days. He, verily, hath willed for you that which is yet beyond your knowledge, but which shall be known to you when, after this fleeting life, your souls soar heavenwards and the trappings of your earthly joys are folded up. Thus admonisheth you He in Whose possession is the Guarded Tablet.
(The Kitáb-i-Aqdas, par. 97)
 
Old 06-27-2017, 11:17 AM   #7
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Is this what you are referring to?



3. “SHOULD ANYONE ACQUIRE ONE HUNDRED MITHQÁLS OF GOLD,…”

Should anyone acquire one hundred mithqáls of gold, nineteen mithqáls thereof are God’s and to be rendered unto Him, the Fashioner of earth and heaven. Take heed, O people, lest ye deprive yourselves of so great a bounty. This We have commanded you, though We are well able to dispense with you and with all who are in the heavens and on earth; in it there are benefits and wisdoms beyond the ken of anyone but God, the Omniscient, the All-Informed. Say: By this means He hath desired to purify what ye possess and to enable you to draw nigh unto such stations as none can comprehend save those whom God hath willed. He, in truth, is the Beneficent, the Gracious, the Bountiful. O people! Deal not faithlessly with the Right of God, nor, without His leave, make free with its disposal. Thus hath His commandment been established in the holy Tablets, and in this exalted Book. He who dealeth faithlessly with God shall in justice meet with faithlessness himself; he, however, who acteth in accordance with God’s bidding shall receive a blessing from the heaven of the bounty of his Lord, the Gracious, the Bestower, the Generous, the Ancient of Days. He, verily, hath willed for you that which is yet beyond your knowledge, but which shall be known to you when, after this fleeting life, your souls soar heavenwards and the trappings of your earthly joys are folded up. Thus admonisheth you He in Whose possession is the Guarded Tablet.
(The Kitáb-i-Aqdas, par. 97)
The wording of this verse has always interested me. It seems to say if you acquire 100 mithqals of gold in excess, to donate 19% of that. But would that mean that someone who has less than 100 mithqals of gold (364.2 grams of gold, or $14,648.12 US dollars) should not give charitably until they are more wealthy??
 
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The wording of this verse has always interested me. It seems to say if you acquire 100 mithqals of gold in excess, to donate 19% of that. But would that mean that someone who has less than 100 mithqals of gold (364.2 grams of gold, or $14,648.12 US dollars) should not give charitably until they are more wealthy??
I see it as that is the law. Also as the law Baha'u'llah still says it is only allowable to pay this requirement in the right Spirit. If one does not have that spirit to pay, it will not be accepted.

Thus this Law is a Bounty, so then we can consider, If one so wishes and they only own an apple and they wish to give that. they can

The giving of Funds in this day is fully because one wants to and we have to try to give in the station of sacrifice.

To me it is the 'sacrifice component', that feeds growth in the world of Spirit.

Regards Tony
 
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