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Old 09-26-2017, 02:49 PM   #1
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Idle talk?

What is idle talk? What about causing a laughter? What about saying something about someone behind there back just to cause a laugh when you don't mean to harm the other person? I mean what even is idle talk?
 
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Old 09-26-2017, 02:53 PM   #2
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"observe silence and refrain from idle talk. For the tongue is a smoldering fire, and excess of speech a deadly poison" observing silence I'm not sure how to bring joy to others by being silent I usually bring joy by humour and comedy lighthearted and in context with person I'm speaking to with sole intention of uplifting the other person but some things I'm not sure are OK especially with quote above hope someone can help
 
Old 09-27-2017, 09:26 AM   #3
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Laughing about others behind their back seems to me to be a form of backbiting, which is strictly forbidden.

Laughter in moderation is good. Baha'u'llah had a sense of humor. Raucousness and laughter in excess is bad.

Check out this link for more:


https://bahai-library.com/ballenger_master_humorist
 
Old 09-27-2017, 11:11 AM   #4
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"observe silence and refrain from idle talk. For the tongue is a smoldering fire, and excess of speech a deadly poison" observing silence I'm not sure how to bring joy to others by being silent I usually bring joy by humour and comedy lighthearted and in context with person I'm speaking to with sole intention of uplifting the other person but some things I'm not sure are OK especially with quote above hope someone can help
So the full context of this quote you have here reads as follows:

That seeker must, at all times, put his trust in God, must renounce the peoples of the earth, must detach himself from the world of dust, and cleave unto Him Who is the Lord of Lords. He must never seek to exalt himself above any one, must wash away from the tablet of his heart every trace of pride and vain-glory, must cling unto patience and resignation, observe silence and refrain from idle talk. For the tongue is a smoldering fire, and excess of speech a deadly poison. Material fire consumeth the body, whereas the fire of the tongue devoureth both heart and soul. The force of the former lasteth but for a time, whilst the effects of the latter endureth a century.

That seeker should, also, regard backbiting as grievous error, and keep himself aloof from its dominion, inasmuch as backbiting quencheth the light of the heart, and extinguisheth the life of the soul. He should be content with little, and be freed from all inordinate desire. He should treasure the companionship of them that have renounced the world, and regard avoidance of boastful and worldly people a precious benefit. At the dawn of every day he should commune with God, and, with all his soul, persevere in the quest of his Beloved. He should consume every wayward thought with the flame of His loving mention, and, with the swiftness of lightning, pass by all else save Him. He should succor the dispossessed, and never withhold his favor from the destitute. He should show kindness to animals, how much more unto his fellow-man, to him who is endowed with the power of utterance. He should not hesitate to offer up his life for his Beloved, nor allow the censure of the people to turn him away from the Truth. He should not wish for others that which he doth not wish for himself, nor promise that which he doth not fulfil. With all his heart he should avoid fellowship with evil-doers, and pray for the remission of their sins. He should forgive the sinful, and never despise his low estate, for none knoweth what his own end shall be. How often hath a sinner attained, at the hour of death, to the essence of faith, and, quaffing the immortal draught, hath taken his flight unto the Concourse on high! And how often hath a devout believer, at the hour of his soulís ascension, been so changed as to fall into the nethermost fire!


So, according to the context here, this idle, dangerous speech refers to backbiting: The act of using your words to bring harm to others.

Laughter and using humor and comedy to bring people joy?? That's far from idle backbiting, that has a very good purpose.
 
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