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Old 09-29-2017, 09:17 PM   #1
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Question on Obligatory Prayers

I just wanted to confirm my understanding that Baha'i are only required to choose one set of obligatory prayers: Either the long one said once at any point in each day, the middle one repeated three times each day, or the short one said sometime between noon and two hours before sunset each day.
 
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Old 09-30-2017, 04:41 AM   #2
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I just wanted to confirm my understanding that Baha'i are only required to choose one set of obligatory prayers: Either the long one said once at any point in each day, the middle one repeated three times each day, or the short one said sometime between noon and two hours before sunset each day.
Yes, you have it correct.

On a personal note, for many years I would do either the short or long prayers and sometimes forget. For the last year I have set my alarm clock to get up 1/2 hour earlier and say the long prayer and 95 repetitions of the Greatest Name (Allah-u-Abha) plus reading some of the Holy Writings before breakfast every morning. I highly recommend that sort of daily practice for anyone who can manage it.
 
Old 09-30-2017, 11:42 AM   #3
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I just wanted to confirm my understanding that Baha'i are only required to choose one set of obligatory prayers: Either the long one said once at any point in each day, the middle one repeated three times each day, or the short one said sometime between noon and two hours before sunset each day.
I think the Short one can be said from noon till sunset. I do not remember anything about 2 hours before sunset. I could be wrong though.

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Old 09-30-2017, 04:33 PM   #4
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I just checked and you are correct, it is up until sunset. Apparently "evening" is sunset until two hours after sunset.
 
Old 09-30-2017, 08:14 PM   #5
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or the short one said sometime between noon and two hours before sunset each day.
I had a bit of a fright there haha and had to check the Short Obligatory times again, as I sometimes can't say it until close to sunset.

A bit of a tangential question, does praying every morning and evening entail praying between sunset and two hours after sunset for the evening prayers? I've always just been saying them as night prayers before I go to sleep, which could be close to midnight or after.
 
Old 10-01-2017, 01:04 AM   #6
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A bit of a tangential question, does praying every morning and evening entail praying between sunset and two hours after sunset for the evening prayers? I've always just been saying them as night prayers before I go to sleep, which could be close to midnight or after.
I don't know of any command saying that one should pray every morning and every evening. There is a command to read the Writings at these times, though.
 
Old 10-02-2017, 02:00 AM   #7
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I don't know of any command saying that one should pray every morning and every evening. There is a command to read the Writings at these times, though.
Yes this is in the notesof the Kitab-i-Aqdas

165. Recite ye the verses of God every morn and eventide. # 149
Bahá'u'lláh states that the essential "requisite" for reciting "the verses of God" is the "eagerness and love" of the believers to "read the Word of God" (Q and A 68).

With regard to the definition of "verses of God", Bahá'u'lláh states that it refers to "all that hath been sent down from the Heaven of Divine Utterance". Shoghi Effendi, in a letter written to one of the believers in the East, has clarified that the term "verses of God" does not include the writings of Abdu'l-Bahá; he has likewise indicated that this term does not apply to his own writings

Baha'u'llah : The Kitab-i-Aqdas - Notes

This is an important aspect to consider

"..Shoghi Effendi, in a letter written to one of the believers in the East, has clarified that the term "verses of God" does not include the writings of Abdu'l-Bahá; he has likewise indicated that this term does not apply to his own writings..."

Regards Tony
 
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I don't know of any command saying that one should pray every morning and every evening. There is a command to read the Writings at these times, though.
Thanks. Wow for some reason I just took 'eventide' as before we sleep. I didn't realize the specification of evening as between sunset and 2 hours after sunset applied to this law.
 
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