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Old 10-04-2017, 10:00 AM   #1
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Is Haququllah not payable if you have debt. What about a house mortgage is that debt does that mean you don't have to pay Haququllah if you have a car finance or house mortgage ?
 
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Old 10-04-2017, 11:28 AM   #2
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Is Haququllah not payable if you have debt. What about a house mortgage is that debt does that mean you don't have to pay Haququllah if you have a car finance or house mortgage ?
Huqqu'llh is not a percentage of income, it's a percentage of leftover money after living expenses (debt and mortgage and food and bills and the like).

So just for example, if you have in a given month 3,000 in income, spend 1,000 on paying off loans, 1,000 on living expenses and necessities, the Huqqu'llh would be calculated as 190, rather than 570.

If zero money is left over after paying back loans and other living expenses, then 19% of 0 is 0, and so there is no need to pay a Huqqu'llh.
 
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Can we save money?
 
Old 10-04-2017, 01:08 PM   #4
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Can we save money?
Yes. The percentage is only applied to excess income.
 
Old 10-04-2017, 05:32 PM   #5
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Yes. The percentage is only applied to excess income.


I am not quite sure I understand this....money we might put in savings, is money that is not needed for living expenses. And always, it is given with joy and loving gratitude for being able to do so.
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Old 10-05-2017, 06:46 AM   #6
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I am not quite sure I understand this....money we might put in savings, is money that is not needed for living expenses. And always, it is given with joy and loving gratitude for being able to do so.
Loving regards,
Becky
Right, that doesn't mean you can't save the money you have left over after giving. Maybe I misunderstood the question??

Also I'd assume that if you were saving for the purpose of living expenses, like saving up for housing, that you would not count that saved money as excess income when doing the calculation. But I suppose its ultimately up to the discretion of the individual in how they want to make the calculation.

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Old 10-05-2017, 01:52 PM   #7
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Right, that doesn't mean you can't save the money you have left over after giving. Maybe I misunderstood the question??

Also I'd assume that if you were saving for the purpose of living expenses, like saving up for housing, that you would not count that saved money as excess income when doing the calculation. But I suppose its ultimately up to the discretion of the individual in how they want to make the calculation.
Right....agree on both these points. And, that's it is always an individual decision on how and when one is able to partake of this blessing.
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Becky
 
Old 10-06-2017, 05:11 AM   #8
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Hi everyone

This is how I see it:

The difference between saving and accumulating , I guess, is that saving is part of a reasonable project with more or less clear objectives or milestones.

Accumulating wealth, on the other hand, obeys a compulsive desire of having more figures in a bank account or properties with the irrational expectation that security, health, beauty of love will come out of those material things.

Saving money is, ultimately, only a deferred rational expense.
So reflect on the purpose of that future expense. If it serves your growth and happiness as a spiritual being, saving is good and should not be "taxed" by the Huququ'llah

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