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Old 11-14-2017, 11:59 AM   #1
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Evidence for shoghi effendis words needed

"As Bahá’u’lláh says often in His Tablets the friends should develop a flair wherewith they can detect the good from the evil person. Mere name of Bahá’í does not constitute a Bahá’í. His character also has to be Bahá'í." - shoghi effendi

I have not come across any tablet or saying of any sort can somebody please point to this ..
 
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Old 11-14-2017, 12:45 PM   #2
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"As Bahá’u’lláh says often in His Tablets the friends should develop a flair wherewith they can detect the good from the evil person. Mere name of Bahá’í does not constitute a Bahá’í. His character also has to be Bahá'í." - shoghi effendi

I have not come across any tablet or saying of any sort can somebody please point to this ..
1406. The Mere Name of Bahá'í does not Constitute a Bahá'í

"... the Guardian wishes the Bahá'í to bear in mind the repeated counsels of the Master that the friends should be on their guard when dealing with Easterners. Not only should they trust no one unless he bears some letter of introduction from his Assembly but also after he is permitted in the Bahá'í group they should be very careful in their dealings with him. This does not mean that they should be unkind to him or have a constant suspicion that would gradually alienate him from the Cause, but to be on their guard lest he misuses their trust. The case of Ahmad Sohrab is a very good example of what an Easterner can do. He thinks to be doing shrewd business when a Westerner would consider the act to be deceitful. As Bahá'u'lláh says often in His Tablets the friends should develop a flair wherewith they can detect the good from the evil person. Mere name of Bahá'í does not constitute a Bahá'í. His character also has to be Bahá'í."

(From a letter written on behalf of the Guardian to the National Spiritual Assembly of the United States, December 18, 1932)

(Compilations, Lights of Guidance, p. 428)
 
Old 11-15-2017, 10:08 AM   #3
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I was looking for in what tablet and what verse does Bahaullah actually say about developing a flair of detection as I've never read it ... However the fact shoghi effendi is infallible interpreter it does not matter ...
 
Old 11-15-2017, 10:31 AM   #4
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I was looking for in what tablet and what verse does Bahaullah actually say about developing a flair of detection as I've never read it ... However the fact shoghi effendi is infallible interpreter it does not matter ...
Leading unto His Word, the understandings found in:
"discerning" (Baha'u'llah) and in "discernment" (Baha'u'llah)
by using Ocean search,
 
Old 11-15-2017, 11:21 AM   #5
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This is more Rabbi Nachman, but He is talking about prophecy of the messiah being able to discern moral character of a person by mere smell (a Kabbalistic symbol). I mention this because who is the messiah? The Divine Manifestation!

“For one is unable to [properly] reprove Israel over their sins, besides for one who is able to give and add good fragrance to the souls through his reproving them. This is impossible except if one merits the aspect of ‘the voice that waters the Garden of Eden’, since from there are grown all ‘smells’ (‘rehot’, related to the word ‘ruhot’, spirits/souls) and all [holy] fears (fear, smell, and souls are linked, as it says of the Messiah that he will be able to judge through scent), which is the sound of the song that will be awoken in the future. (See inside, Likutei Moharan II, 8)
 
Old 11-15-2017, 05:20 PM   #6
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Do you think this is the sort of thing you were looking for?

"Know thou, moreover, that the bird that taketh flight in the atmosphere of the realm on high will never be able to soar unto the heaven of transcendent holiness, nor taste of the fruits which God hath brought forth therein, nor quaff from the streams which He hath caused to flow in its midst. And were it to partake but a drop thereof, it would perish forthwith. Even as thou dost witness in these days with regard to those who profess allegiance unto Us, and yet perform such deeds, utter such words, and advance such claims as they have. Methinks they lie as dead within their own veils.

Comprehend, in like manner, every station, sign, and allusion, that thou mayest perceive all things in their own place and consider all matters in their proper light. For in this station, the City of Divine Unity, are to be found those who have entered within the ark of divine guidance and journeyed through the heights of divine unity. Thou shalt behold the lights of beauty upon their faces and the mysteries of glory in their human temples. Thou shalt perceive the musk-laden fragrance of their words and behold the signs of His sovereignty in all their ways and doings. Nor wilt thou be veiled by the deeds of them that have failed to quaff from the crystal springs or to attain unto the cities of holiness, and who follow their selfish desires and spread disorder in the land, all the while believing themselves to be guided aright. It is indeed of them that it hath been said: "These are the abject and foolish, who follow every clamorous impostor and who bend with every changing wind."58 The stages of this journey, station, and abode are clear and manifest to thee and require no further explanation."

(Baha'u'llah, Gems of Divine Mysteries, p. 64)
 
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