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Old 11-20-2017, 11:56 PM   #1
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On the Manifestations of God

Did Baha'u'llah ever specify that certain named individuals, and only certain named individuals, are to be considered Manifestations of God?

Often listed within the Baha'i faith are nine: Abraham, Moses, Christ, Muhammad, The Bab, Baha'u'llah, Buddha, Krishna, and Zoroaster. But did Baha'u'llah ever close the door to the acceptance of other traditions, such as Sikhism and Jainism, as being divinely-inspired?
 
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Old 11-21-2017, 05:05 AM   #2
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Did Baha'u'llah ever specify that certain named individuals, and only certain named individuals, are to be considered Manifestations of God?

Often listed within the Baha'i faith are nine: Abraham, Moses, Christ, Muhammad, The Bab, Baha'u'llah, Buddha, Krishna, and Zoroaster. But did Baha'u'llah ever close the door to the acceptance of other traditions, such as Sikhism and Jainism, as being divinely-inspired?
I don't think Baha'u'llah ever limited the number of Manifestations to just those. He clearly said that God has always guided mankind by sending Messengers, and that there were many cycles going back before Adam although record of those Manifestations are lost to history.

Furthermore Baha'u'llah said that God has sent Messengers to all peoples, so I am quite certain that the Prophets who came to the native Americans are also Manifestations of God, and the same applies to Africa, Australia and so on. My personal speculation is that we can get a sense of how the Manifestations that appeared in the Middle East before Adam may have been by learning about some of the Native American Prophets.

The list of Manifestations you cite above was given by Shoghi Effendi, and he usually added the prophet of the Sabeans, which was an ancient religion mentioned in the Qur'an, but the name of that Prohet is unknown at present.
 
Old 11-22-2017, 08:24 AM   #3
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Did Baha'u'llah ever specify that certain named individuals, and only certain named individuals, are to be considered Manifestations of God?

Often listed within the Baha'i faith are nine: Abraham, Moses, Christ, Muhammad, The Bab, Baha'u'llah, Buddha, Krishna, and Zoroaster. But did Baha'u'llah ever close the door to the acceptance of other traditions, such as Sikhism and Jainism, as being divinely-inspired?
No, not at all. Remember, the Quran explicitly says that every people had been sent a messenger. I doubt it would be possible to list them all.

Officially, the Baha'i Faith only speaks with certainty about the statuses of persons explicitly confirmed by either Baha'u'llah, the Bab, or the Quran. Though that doesn't mean we as individuals can't investigate or consider others as well.

One of the leaders of my country's NSA is a Lakota woman who has written about her belief in the White Buffalo Calf Woman as the Manifestation to the Lakota.

There's an image somewhere (I cannot find it right now ) of a group of South American Baha'is with a sign proclaiming Baha'u'llah the "Return of Veracocha".

And I've interacted with a handful of Baha'is who include Mormonism's prophets on their lists.

And then there's myself, who considers Lao Tzu and Chuang Tzu to be prophets, though I don't presume to know their status as greater or lesser.

Also of interest, there are some prophets Baha'u'llah confirmed that don't often make it on the common lists. Hermes Trismegistus, for example, was confirmed of prophetic status by Baha'u'llah.

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Old 11-22-2017, 03:09 PM   #4
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Please see the selection below gleaned from the Writings of the Bab. I hope you find it helpful as you further explore many other selections from the Writings on this same topic.

“The process of His creation hath had no beginning and can have no end, otherwise it would necessitate the cessation of His celestial grace. God hath raised up Prophets and revealed Books as numerous as the creatures of the world, and will continue to do so to everlasting. . . .

And know thou that He indeed resembleth the sun. Were the risings of the sun to continue till the end that hath no end, yet there hath not been nor ever will be more than one sun; and were its settings to endure for evermore, still there hath not been nor ever will be more than one sun. It is this Primal Will which appeareth resplendent in every Prophet and speaketh forth in every revealed Book. It knoweth no beginning, inasmuch as the First deriveth its firstness from It; and knoweth no end, for the Last oweth its lastness unto It.”


(Selections from the Writings of the Bab, p. 126)

-LR
 
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