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Old 03-04-2018, 10:51 AM   #1
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Did God intend for the religions of the world to become distorted?

Did God intend for the religions of the world to become distorted and if not, why did He continue to send different prophets KNOWING that eventually the message would be lost and distorted?

I'm just trying to understand the logic behind why God would continue sending prophets knowing that eventually the message would be lost in translation.
 
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Old 03-05-2018, 04:10 AM   #2
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'Know verily that the purpose underlying all these symbolic terms and abstruse allusions, which emanate from the Revealers of God's holy Cause, hath been to test and prove the peoples of the world; that thereby the earth of the pure and illuminated hearts may be known from the perishable and barren soil. From time immemorial such hath been the way of God amidst His creatures, and to this testify the records of the sacred books.' - Bahá'u'lláh - Kitab I Iqan
 
Old 03-05-2018, 05:23 AM   #3
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Did God intend for the religions of the world to become distorted
Intend?? Probably not. Plan for?? Most certainly.

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and if not, why did He continue to send different prophets KNOWING that eventually the message would be lost and distorted?
What's the alternative??

The way I see it there are maybe three options:

1) (the option that appears to have been taken) Keep sending new Prophets to issue corrections and new guidance, thus giving people guidance, although it is guidance that can be distorted.

2) Offer no guidance at all.

3) Restrict free will to make distortion impossible.

1 seems like the best option to me. 2 has no distortion problem but surely distorted guidance is better than none at all. 3 seems like tyranny to me.

Are there any other options you see that I have missed that would be better than the first option??
 
Old 03-05-2018, 10:22 AM   #4
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Did God intend for the religions of the world to become distorted and if not, why did He continue to send different prophets KNOWING that eventually the message would be lost and distorted?

I'm just trying to understand the logic behind why God would continue sending prophets knowing that eventually the message would be lost in translation.
Baha'u'llah in The Seven Valleys has said, when we enter the Valley of Knowledge; (I have highlighted the quote to ponder)

"...His inner eyes will open and he will privily converse with his Beloved; he will set ajar the gate of truth and piety, and shut the doors of vain imaginings. He in this station is content with the decree of God, and seeth war as peace, and findeth in death the secrets of everlasting life. With inward and outward eyes he witnesseth the mysteries of resurrection in the realms of creation and the souls of men, and with a pure heart apprehendeth the divine wisdom in the endless Manifestations of God. In the ocean he findeth a drop, in a drop he beholdeth the secrets of the sea.

Split the atom’s heart, and lo!
Within it thou wilt find a sun.

The wayfarer in this Valley seeth in the fashionings of the True One nothing save clear providence, and at every moment saith: “No defect canst thou see in the creation of the God of Mercy: Repeat the gaze: Seest thou a single flaw?” He beholdeth justice in injustice, and in justice, grace. In ignorance he findeth many a knowledge hidden, and in knowledge a myriad wisdoms manifest. He breaketh the cage of the body and the passions, and consorteth with the people of the immortal realm. He mounteth on the ladders of inner truth and hasteneth to the heaven of inner significance. He rideth in the ark of “we shall show them our signs in the regions and in themselves,” and journeyeth over the sea of “until it become plain to them that (this Book) is the truth.” And if he meeteth with injustice he shall have patience, and if he cometh upon wrath he shall manifest love..."

There is wisdom in all things, there is always a reason, it all leads us to a single point, that is our One God.

Regards Tony
 
Old 03-09-2018, 12:40 AM   #5
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If you bear a child, you know that, one day,it will die. That doesn't mean that you intend the child to die. It's just the condition of anything on earth.

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Old 03-10-2018, 10:37 PM   #6
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Those that seek mystical truth on this topic may benefit from a perusal of the Tablet of the Holy Mariner.
 
Old 03-12-2018, 06:33 AM   #7
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The learning process implies that we humans won't understand some information, that we will misunderstand other information, and that we will forget some of the information we understood.... and then, sometimes, make up a narrative to fill the gaps of what we have forgotten or misunderstood.
That's part of the nature of our minds.

The opening post seems to me part of the greater question: "Why didn't God created everything perfect at once? Why must everything evolve?"

I don't know the answer, but it seems to me that if God "decided" to create a phenomenal world, He knew it entailed change. The minds of His human creatures live in connection to brain processes which are part of this phenomenal world. In other words, His human creatures understand partially, misunderstand, forget what they understood, and invent narratives to fill in the gaps.

So it takes several Messengers to be sent and repeat the essence of the Eternal Message (the Eternal Gospel) and to add new narratives, metaphors, rituals, laws, symbols, commandments, and abrogate or change others, according to the needs and capabilities of the learners.
 
Old 03-12-2018, 03:43 PM   #8
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Here's a thought...

Did God intend that the chrysalis shell of a caterpillar should become distorted and break off when the butterfly emerges? Yes!

It served its purpose very well when protecting the caterpillar, it was exactly as God intended. Then when the butterfly is about to emerge, it breaks apart. I recently learned that it is also necessary for the butterfly to have difficulty coming out, because the extra effort needed to break the chrysalis helps to strengthen its wings so it can fly.

Shoghi Effendi wrote:
To the general character, the implications and features of this world commonwealth, destined to emerge, sooner or later, out of the carnage, agony, and havoc of this great world convulsion, I have already referred in my previous communications. Suffice it to say that this consummation will, by its very nature, be a gradual process, and must, as Bahá'u'lláh has Himself anticipated, lead at first to the establishment of that Lesser Peace which the nations of the earth, as yet unconscious of His Revelation and yet unwittingly enforcing the general principles which He has enunciated, will themselves establish. This momentous and historic step, involving the reconstruction of mankind, as the result of the universal recognition of its oneness and wholeness, will bring in its wake the spiritualization of the masses, consequent to the recognition of the character, and the acknowledgment of the claims, of the Faith of Bahá'u'lláh -- the essential condition to that ultimate fusion of all races, creeds, classes, and nations which must signalize the emergence of His New World Order.

(Shoghi Effendi, The Promised Day is Come, p. 123)
 
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