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Old 03-21-2018, 10:28 AM   #1
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31 March 2018 - Jesus Christ will come in rapture

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Old 03-21-2018, 10:36 AM   #2
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See you next Saturday, Pawel, Inshallah.

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Old 03-21-2018, 11:07 AM   #3
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See you next Saturday, Pawel.
" 3knowing this first: that scoffers will come in the last days, walking according to their own lusts,4and saying, “Where is the promise of His coming? For since the fathers fell asleep, all things continue as"they were"from the beginning of creation (2 Peter 3:3-4)
 
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Well, I'll attend a brithday celebration on 2 April. On 31 March, I have some laundry to do. Life goes on...



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Old 03-21-2018, 11:10 AM   #5
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See you next Saturday, Pawel.
Remember to add, God Willing

This following quote I find this very interesting. There are many people awaiting events yet to unfold from the Bible Prophecies, we know Baha'u'llah has fulfilled both Materially and Spiritually many, but some are yet to be fulfilled; any way, you also may like what is says, to me it gives a new Frame of reference to offer;

"A letter dated 29 November 1937 written on behalf of Shoghi Effendi to an individual believer identifies the fulfillment of Christ's prophecy of His return of the coming of the Kingdom of the Father with the worldwide realization of the sovereignty of Bahá'u’lláh:

Now as regards the signs that would herald the advent of the new Manifestation; The Guardian wishes you to read over very carefully Bahá'u’lláh's explanation as recorded in the Íqán". There it is made clear that what is meant by the appearance of the Son of God after the calamitous events preceding His coming is the revelation of His full glory and its recognition and acceptance by the peoples of the world, and not His physical appearance. For Bahá'u’lláh, Whose advent marks the return of the Son in the glory of the Father, has already appeared, and the signs predicted in the Gospel have not yet fully been realized. Their complete fulfillment, however, would mark the beginning of the recognition of His full station by the peoples of the world. Then and only then will His appearance be made completely manifest."

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Old 03-21-2018, 11:19 AM   #6
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" 3knowing this first: that scoffers will come in the last days, walking according to their own lusts,4and saying, “Where is the promise of His coming? For since the fathers fell asleep, all things continue as"they were"from the beginning of creation (2 Peter 3:3-4)
Pawel - This quote is for you to consider, it reflects your stance against the Faith of Baha'u'llah.

We do not scoff or wait, Christ has come in the 'Glory of God', the Father.

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“For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first: Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.” (1 Thessalonians 4:16-17)

“Be watchful … If therefore thou shalt not watch, I will come on thee as a thief, and thou shalt not know what hour I will come upon thee.” (Revelation 3:23)

“Be ye therefore ready also: for the Son of man cometh at an hour when ye think not.” (Luke 12:39-40)

I am having problems finding the date March 31, 2018 here, can you help point it out, please? Thank you.

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...Pfffft!
This is one way to end the fast.
 
Old 03-22-2018, 05:45 AM   #9
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Remember to add, God Willing
Ok, but I like the sound of Inshallah better. I blame watching too many Turkish soap operas.
 
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" 3knowing this first: that scoffers will come in the last days, walking according to their own lusts,4and saying, “Where is the promise of His coming? For since the fathers fell asleep, all things continue as"they were"from the beginning of creation (2 Peter 3:3-4)
Since I'm the one who believes it is already happened and done, and you are the one predicting it into the future, doesn't this verse apply to you more than me?

I have no need to wonder "Where is the promise of His coming?" because He Has Come, in certainty. It would seem like the ones projecting the event into future speculation are the ones wondering where the promise is. You're the one scoffing the notion that He Has Come.

Anyways, see you next Saturday, Inshallah.
 
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“For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first: Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.” (1 Thessalonians 4:16-17)

“Be watchful … If therefore thou shalt not watch, I will come on thee as a thief, and thou shalt not know what hour I will come upon thee.” (Revelation 3:23)

“Be ye therefore ready also: for the Son of man cometh at an hour when ye think not.” (Luke 12:39-40)

I am having problems finding the date March 31, 2018 here, can you help point it out, please? Thank you.

-LR
He's counting up seventy years, exchanging "seventy weeks" for "seventy years", from the establishment of the modern Israeli State. That's all.
 
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We don't know "day or any hour" of Jesus second coming, so 1844 year, for nazarite bahai should betruthfulness and year of deceivenes! Báb wasn't the prophet but reformer of islam

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Old 03-23-2018, 09:40 AM   #13
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Báb wasn't the prophet but reformer of islam
How does this person even dare to use the Bab's name?
 
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"We don't know the day or hour so 1844 is wrong based on that alone... But 2018 though"
 
Old 03-23-2018, 04:42 PM   #15
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Ok, but I like the sound of Inshallah better. I blame watching too many Turkish soap operas.
Ha ha, shows the barrier of Language, I did not pick that up the first time, well done!

We have a cyclone forecast coming our way in the Gulf of Carpentaria, far north west Qld, might be a cat 3 to 4. God willing we will still have a house after, if indeed it does make it here?

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Old 03-23-2018, 04:45 PM   #16
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We don't know "day or any hour" of Jesus second coming, so 1844 year, for nazarite bahai should betruthfulness and year of deceivenes! Báb wasn't the prophet but reformer of islam
Where did it say year in that Prophecy?

The year was predicted, but the day and hour in that year, was not known. But still the people were visited by the Thief in the Night!

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We are just dealing with a very boring person, who is trying to provoke us, so that he can claim that he is persecuted by us. Evey word spent on these meaningless combinations of words is a lost effort.

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Old 03-26-2018, 06:02 AM   #18
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31 March 2018 - Jesus Christ will come in rapture
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We don't know "day or any hour" of Jesus second coming
There's more that could be said, but honestly Pawel says it best himself.

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Old 03-28-2018, 08:57 PM   #19
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We are just dealing with a very boring person, who is trying to provoke us, so that he can claim that he is persecuted by us. Evey word spent on these meaningless combinations of words is a lost effort.

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Sounds to me like we are dealing with someone who is waiting for the same man Jesus, just like the Christians...

This waiting alone is holding back the progress of humanity... Christianity is a pall to humanity... I just said that to a nonbeliever who is an ex-Christian. I am not one to mince words.
 
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I will offer that as long as no one is mincing words, let's consider the unminced words of the Guardian of the Cause of God:

Far from wishing to add to the number of the religious systems, whose conflicting loyalties have for so many generations disturbed the peace of mankind, this Faith is instilling into each of its adherents a new love for, and a genuine appreciation of the unity underlying, the various religions represented within its pale. . . .

The Faith of Bahá'u'lláh has assimilated, by virtue of its creative, its regulative and ennobling energies, the varied races, nationalities, creeds and classes that have sought its shadow, and have pledged unswerving fealty to its cause. It has changed the hearts of its adherents, burned away their prejudices, stilled their passions, exalted their conceptions, ennobled their motives, cöordinated their efforts, and transformed their outlook. While preserving their patriotism and safeguarding their lesser loyalties, it has made them lovers of mankind, and the determined upholders of its best and truest interests. While maintaining intact their belief in the Divine origin of their respective religions, it has enabled them to visualize the underlying purpose of these religions, to discover their merits, to recognize their sequence, their interdependence, their wholeness and unity, and to acknowledge the bond that vitally links them to itself. This universal, this transcending love which the followers of the Bahá'í Faith feel for their fellow-men, of whatever race, creed, class or nation, is neither mysterious nor can it be said to have been artificially stimulated. It is both spontaneous and genuine. They whose hearts are warmed by the energizing influence of God's creative love cherish His creatures for His sake, and recognize in every human face a sign of His reflected glory.

(Shoghi Effendi, The Unfoldment of World Civilization, March 11, 1936; The World Order of Bahá'u'lláh, 196 - 198)

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Does anyone know of any good online audio/video talks about the subject of the Second Coming symbolism within the Baha'i Faith?

I like to listen to religious discussion on my weekend hikes, and I figure thus I might theme Saturday's hike around the Second Coming.
 
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Does anyone know of any good online audio/video talks about the subject of the Second Coming symbolism within the Baha'i Faith?

I like to listen to religious discussion on my weekend hikes, and I figure thus I might theme Saturday's hike around the Second Coming.
You can get the downloader on youtube and get the audio on any of these videos;

https://www.google.com.au/search?q=B...w=1440&bih=743

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We are just dealing with a very boring person, who is trying to provoke us, so that he can claim that he is persecuted by us. Evey word spent on these meaningless combinations of words is a lost effort.

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Well, we inhabit a world of alternative facts.
 
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Well, we inhabit a world of alternative facts.
And then there are those of us who use those oldfashioned words, like "lie", "fantasy" and "delusion".

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Well, we inhabit a world of alternative facts.
Ha,Ha,Ha,Ha,Ha! Sadly the truth!
 
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Ha,Ha,Ha,Ha,Ha! Sadly the truth!
Welcome all and Pawel, to the day after the possible Rapture

P/S Always wondered how they think it will be One event all will see with different time zones, many have not started the 1st of April and still sleep.....Ahh I have been done!!!!

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I will offer that as long as no one is mincing words, let's consider the unminced words of the Guardian of the Cause of God:

Far from wishing to add to the number of the religious systems, whose conflicting loyalties have for so many generations disturbed the peace of mankind, this Faith is instilling into each of its adherents a new love for, and a genuine appreciation of the unity underlying, the various religions represented within its pale. . . .

The Faith of Bahá'u'lláh has assimilated, by virtue of its creative, its regulative and ennobling energies, the varied races, nationalities, creeds and classes that have sought its shadow, and have pledged unswerving fealty to its cause. It has changed the hearts of its adherents, burned away their prejudices, stilled their passions, exalted their conceptions, ennobled their motives, cöordinated their efforts, and transformed their outlook. While preserving their patriotism and safeguarding their lesser loyalties, it has made them lovers of mankind, and the determined upholders of its best and truest interests. While maintaining intact their belief in the Divine origin of their respective religions, it has enabled them to visualize the underlying purpose of these religions, to discover their merits, to recognize their sequence, their interdependence, their wholeness and unity, and to acknowledge the bond that vitally links them to itself. This universal, this transcending love which the followers of the Bahá'í Faith feel for their fellow-men, of whatever race, creed, class or nation, is neither mysterious nor can it be said to have been artificially stimulated. It is both spontaneous and genuine. They whose hearts are warmed by the energizing influence of God's creative love cherish His creatures for His sake, and recognize in every human face a sign of His reflected glory.

(Shoghi Effendi, The Unfoldment of World Civilization, March 11, 1936; The World Order of Bahá'u'lláh, 196 - 198)

-LR
Thank you for sharing that, Larry. A very lovely reminder of the beauty and purpose of acceptance in the Baha'i Faith.
Loving regards,
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Jesus didn't come in rapture, that means nothing, It's my fault to made this date as important, Jesus said we don't know "even day or hours" of his glorious second coming in rapture
 
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Jesus didn't come in rapture, that means nothing, It's my fault to made this date as important, Jesus said we don't know "even day or hours" of his glorious second coming in rapture
1844 and 1863 Paul

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While the Christians follow the progress of the construction, the Lord suddenly comes with the Rapture! The third Temple is still under construction when Jesus comes to pick up His own. With this given, this Prophecy could be true, that the Lord will come sooner.
 
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While the Christians follow the progress of the construction, the Lord suddenly comes with the Rapture! The third Temple is still under construction when Jesus comes to pick up His own. With this given, this Prophecy could be true, that the Lord will come sooner.

The Third Temple being Baha'u'llah.

The Construction of the Administrative Order continues.

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I guess that didn't work out as planned....
 
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I guess that didn't work out as planned....
Just a little textual mix-up. The original said "at the end of THE march," but the copyist was in a hurry.
 
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...Jesus said we don't know "even day or hours" of his glorious second coming...
There's a lot to be said for letting the Sacred Text speak for itself:
Matthew 24:36 "...Concerning that day and hour no one knows, not even the angels of heaven, but My Father only. 37 As were the days of Noah..."
--and as it was in the days of Noah, when the world was flooded everyone either new the day had come or they were dead one way or another. We love Jesus so we also know his warning came after telling us to---
Matthew 24:36 "...see the ‘abomination of desolation,’ spoken of by Daniel the prophet..."
--which was in Daniel 8 where he tells of a vision he had of Gabriel in what was later eastern Persia where the Bab appeared. The prophesy that told of 1844, goes on in Daniel 9 saying in the year 31 "the Christ" would be "killed unjustly".

iow, we can ignore the prophesies about the Bab and 1844 if we want, but then we end up trashing prophesies of the Christ. More info if anyone's interested...
 
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There's a lot to be said for letting the Sacred Text speak for itself:
Matthew 24:36 "...Concerning that day and hour no one knows, not even the angels of heaven, but My Father only. 37 As were the days of Noah..."
--and as it was in the days of Noah, when the world was flooded everyone either new the day had come or they were dead one way or another. We love Jesus so we also know his warning came after telling us to---
Matthew 24:36 "...see the ‘abomination of desolation,’ spoken of by Daniel the prophet..."
--which was in Daniel 8 where he tells of a vision he had of Gabriel in what was later eastern Persia where the Bab appeared. The prophesy that told of 1844, goes on in Daniel 9 saying in the year 31 "the Christ" would be "killed unjustly".

iow, we can ignore the prophesies about the Bab and 1844 if we want, but then we end up trashing prophesies of the Christ. More info if anyone's interested...
Pete, if you are on Facebook you may enjoy this;


https://m.facebook.com/groups/172257..._comment_reply

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