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Old 04-09-2018, 10:17 PM   #1
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Hello everyone.

My wife and I are baptized, practicing Catholics.

A few months ago, I read The Seven Valleys. It contains the finest, most beautiful meditations on God that I have ever read. That lead me to The Hidden Words. I am currently reading Gleanings from the Writings of Bahullh.

This reading has led me to want to learn more of the Faith. This Friday I am meeting with two Baha'is in my area. I cannot wait!


I am glad to be here and I hope to learn more of the Baha'i Faith each day.


Brett

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Old 04-09-2018, 11:20 PM   #2
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Hello everyone.

My wife and I are baptized, practicing Catholics.

A few months ago, I read The Seven Valleys. It contains the finest, most beautiful meditations on God that I have ever read. That lead me to The Hidden Words. I am currently reading Gleanings from the Writings of Bahullh.

This reading has led me to want to learn more of the Faith. This Friday I am meeting with two Baha'is in my area. I cannot wait!


I am glad to be here and I hope to learn more of the Baha'i Faith each day.


Brett
Great to hear from you Brett. I look forward to you questions and having a conversation or two.

I wish for you all the best in your search.

Regards Tony
 
Old 04-10-2018, 05:47 AM   #3
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Hello everyone.

My wife and I are baptized, practicing Catholics.

A few months ago, I read The Seven Valleys. It contains the finest, most beautiful meditations on God that I have ever read.
Haha!! That's the same book that got me interested.

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That lead me to The Hidden Words. I am currently reading Gleanings from the Writings of Bahullh.

This reading has led me to want to learn more of the Faith. This Friday I am meeting with two Baha'is in my area. I cannot wait!


I am glad to be here and I hope to learn more of the Baha'i Faith each day.


Brett
Welcome!!

We've been doing a sort-of online study group for the Hidden Words that began only two days ago, if you are interested, since you've recently read the book: Deepening: Hidden Words
 
Old 04-10-2018, 12:42 PM   #4
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Hello everyone.

My wife and I are baptized, practicing Catholics.

A few months ago, I read The Seven Valleys. It contains the finest, most beautiful meditations on God that I have ever read. That lead me to The Hidden Words. I am currently reading Gleanings from the Writings of Bahullh.

This reading has led me to want to learn more of the Faith. This Friday I am meeting with two Baha'is in my area. I cannot wait!


I am glad to be here and I hope to learn more of the Baha'i Faith each day.


Brett
Seekers into the Faith are always welcome here. Welcome!! We will try to answer your questions.
 
Old 04-10-2018, 04:41 PM   #5
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Hello everyone.

My wife and I are baptized, practicing Catholics.

A few months ago, I read The Seven Valleys. It contains the finest, most beautiful meditations on God that I have ever read. That lead me to The Hidden Words. I am currently reading Gleanings from the Writings of Bahullh.

This reading has led me to want to learn more of the Faith. This Friday I am meeting with two Baha'is in my area. I cannot wait!


I am glad to be here and I hope to learn more of the Baha'i Faith each day.


Brett

Welcome to the forums, Brett. You can learn a lot from others, as well as from reading. Biggest thing I learned here, was how much I do not know! Great group of people on the forums. I was a practicing Episcopalian, who as it turns out, was also a seeker. Best of luck on this marvelous journey of discovery.

Loving regards,
Becky
 
Old 04-11-2018, 04:12 AM   #6
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Welcome, Brett!

I was raised Catholic myself, and still have the greatest respect for the Church.

You will find that there are some Baha'is who came to the Faith after being totally disenchanted with religion in general or more specifically the one they were raised in. Others, like me, always believed in God, always believed that God is present in the Church, but looking at other religions, believe that God is in the other religions also. That creates a dilemma, since the Church teaches that it is the only true religion (post Vatican II, the Church accepts that there can be some truth in other religions only to the extent that they conform with the teachings of Christianity, but still would not accept that Muhammad is a true Prophet, for example).

So, to me the resolution of that dilemma is the Baha'i Faith. It is as simple as loving God everywhere He appears, meaning in every religion, and loving mankind enough to want to do what God intends in making "Earth as it is in Heaven." That means dropping those thoughts and actions that tend to separate people from one another, and promoting in both word and deed what will bring people together into a unified whole as God intended for us.
 
Old 04-11-2018, 04:26 AM   #7
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Hello Brett.

Welcome. As you will discover in your examination of the Baha’i Faith, Baha’u’llah (meaning the Glory of God) is recognized by Baha’is as being the promised One to all the peoples and religions of the world as foretold in all the great Scriptures and many of the spiritual oral traditions of the world.

Baha’u’llah taught that divine Revelation is a cyclic phenomena, as natural and life infusing as the rising of the sun each day, and as the coming of the spring season each year. By the word “Revelation”, is meant the out-pouring of a tremendous spiritual power into the world that is both seen and unseen. The Source of Revelation is of course the Essence of God, but it comes to humanity via that ancient, divine, and universal Reality called “Word of God (Logos)” in the biblical Scriptures (as well as the Writings of Baha’u’llah) and is also referred to as the “Primal Will” and the “Divine Intelligence” in the Revelation of Baha’u’llah.

I invite you, at your convenience, to consider the words written by Baha’u’llah directed to Pope Pious IX. Offered below is are links to a historical article related to that letter to the Pope and to Baha'u'llah's letter to the Pope himself.

https://beyondforeignness.org/4794

Bahá' Reference Library - The Summons of the Lord of Hosts, Pages 54-67

I wish for you (and your wife) an exciting investigation into the Baha'i Faith and in your search for universal spiritual truth overall. Take care.

-LR
 
Old 04-12-2018, 08:05 PM   #8
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Hello everyone.

My wife and I are baptized, practicing Catholics.

A few months ago, I read The Seven Valleys. It contains the finest, most beautiful meditations on God that I have ever read. That lead me to The Hidden Words. I am currently reading Gleanings from the Writings of Bahullh.

This reading has led me to want to learn more of the Faith. This Friday I am meeting with two Baha'is in my area. I cannot wait!


I am glad to be here and I hope to learn more of the Baha'i Faith each day.


Brett
Welcome aboard! ~~~ My husband and I live in the Olympia, WA area and we have been Baha'is for 54 and 47 years respectively.

I was never of any religion before I was a Baha'i, so I do not know too much about Christianity. My mom was raised Greek Orthodox, my dad Anglican, but both left the church after we were born. My dad died in 1964, before he heard of Baha'i, but my mom became a Baha'i at about age 60, about five years after my brother and me and my sister became Baha'is, so then everyone in the family was a Baha'i. My brother lived in Port Angeles for about 27 years but later moved to Colorado after his wife died and he remarried...

Gleanings is my favorite Baha'i book, after that The Kitab-i-Iqan, but they are all so good...
 
Old 06-09-2018, 09:51 AM   #9
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Hello everyone.

My wife and I are baptized, practicing Catholics.

A few months ago, I read The Seven Valleys. It contains the finest, most beautiful meditations on God that I have ever read. That lead me to The Hidden Words. I am currently reading Gleanings from the Writings of Bahullh.

This reading has led me to want to learn more of the Faith. This Friday I am meeting with two Baha'is in my area. I cannot wait!


I am glad to be here and I hope to learn more of the Baha'i Faith each day.


Brett
I'm reading Gleanings as well The hidden words is beautiful.
 
Old 06-09-2018, 09:54 AM   #10
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Welcome, Brett!

I was raised Catholic myself, and still have the greatest respect for the Church.

You will find that there are some Baha'is who came to the Faith after being totally disenchanted with religion in general or more specifically the one they were raised in. Others, like me, always believed in God, always believed that God is present in the Church, but looking at other religions, believe that God is in the other religions also. That creates a dilemma, since the Church teaches that it is the only true religion (post Vatican II, the Church accepts that there can be some truth in other religions only to the extent that they conform with the teachings of Christianity, but still would not accept that Muhammad is a true Prophet, for example).

So, to me the resolution of that dilemma is the Baha'i Faith. It is as simple as loving God everywhere He appears, meaning in every religion, and loving mankind enough to want to do what God intends in making "Earth as it is in Heaven." That means dropping those thoughts and actions that tend to separate people from one another, and promoting in both word and deed what will bring people together into a unified whole as God intended for us.
Very well put. Not a Catholic myself but the rest i agree with as well.
 
Old 06-10-2018, 06:09 PM   #11
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Congratulations! So happy that you found Baha'u'llah. I'm a new member myself. I just joined this year in 2018. Good luck on your spiritual journey.
 
Old 07-02-2018, 03:38 PM   #12
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Greetings;
Here's what I used to educate myself; God Speaks Again by Kenneth Bowers, Lights of Guidance by Helen Hornby ( cna be found here; Lights of Guidance ) and The Concise Encyclopedia of the Bahai Faith.

If your similar to me, you'll find difficult and new understandings. God Speaks Again helped explain in detail the best how to understand the B.F.

Such as, everyone, regardless of what the individual says they believe, they will transition closer to our Creator after mortal death. Even those who profess to be Atheists. Nobody is left behind. What can occur, is, if the new Teachings are closely followed, the individual will be better prepared for that transition. You don't need to be a Baha'i at all to become closer to our Creator after mortal death, just better prepared.
 
Old 07-02-2018, 07:51 PM   #13
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Such as, everyone, regardless of what the individual says they believe, they will transition closer to our Creator after mortal death. Even those who profess to be Atheists. Nobody is left behind. What can occur, is, if the new Teachings are closely followed, the individual will be better prepared for that transition. You don't need to be a Baha'i at all to become closer to our Creator after mortal death, just better prepared.
I have always wondered about that. That is an interesting perspective. Do you think that Atheists will immediately know God exists after they die? Of course all Atheists are not the same. Some just could not believe because they saw no evidence for God's existence and some arrogantly shun God and call God evil for not providing better evidence. Is God going to forgive them even though they have been been told about Baha'u'llah?

Of course nobody knows what happens after we die, so as Baha'is all we can do is piece things together from the Writings. Unfortunately, to my knowledge, Baha'u'llah did not write anything about the fate of Agnostics and Atheists. All we have is what Abdu'l-Baha wrote that we will not have free will and will only be able to advance by the prayers of others and good works done in our name, and/or and by God's Mercy and Bounty. To me that says that we will be whatever we were at the moment of death, and that we will have to rely on others and God in order to advance. So whatever knowledge of God and whatever spiritual qualities we have acquired is what we will have after we die, unless God or someone else helps us out.

I like the idea of just being better prepared in the sense that Baha'is will have less surprises, but then is that the only reason to be a Baha'i instead of an Atheist or a Christian or another religion? It certainly does not give one a lot of incentive to be a Baha'i unless we believe that it is really important to God that we recognized Baha'u'llah. Indeed, that is what Baha'u'llah says in His Writings, but is this just for Baha'is?

The first duty prescribed by God for His servants is the recognition of Him Who is the Day Spring of His Revelation and the Fountain of His laws, Who representeth the Godhead in both the Kingdom of His Cause and the world of creation. Whoso achieveth this duty hath attained unto all good; and whoso is deprived thereof, hath gone astray, though he be the author of every righteous deed. It behoveth every one who reacheth this most sublime station, this summit of transcendent glory, to observe every ordinance of Him Who is the Desire of the world. These twin duties are inseparable. Neither is acceptable without the other. Thus hath it been decreed by Him Who is the Source of Divine inspiration.

They whom God hath endued with insight will readily recognize that the precepts laid down by God constitute the highest means for the maintenance of order in the world and the security of its peoples. He that turneth away from them, is accounted among the abject and foolish. We, verily, have commanded you to refuse the dictates of your evil passions and corrupt desires, and not to transgress the bounds which the Pen of the Most High hath fixed, for these are the breath of life unto all created things. The seas of Divine wisdom and divine utterance have risen under the breath of the breeze of the All-Merciful. Hasten to drink your fill, O men of understanding! They that have violated the Covenant of God by breaking His commandments, and have turned back on their heels, these have erred grievously in the sight of God, the All-Possessing, the Most High.
Gleanings From the Writings of Bahullh, pp. 330-331

How adherence to these Twin Duties affects our afterlife nobody can say.
 
Old 07-03-2018, 10:49 AM   #14
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Yes, Baha'is who do the twin duties have a very special reward from God that others don't have. Christians that live the life have their own reward too.
 
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