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Old 05-05-2018, 12:33 AM   #1
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Visions of the Next World

Allaho Abha all dear Friends

Have you ever had visions of how the next world look like?
I was recently talking to my very dear friend, and he said that he had a vision about the "Crimson Ark" (symbolic of Baha'is faith). now I had always thought the name "Crimson Ark" is chosen because it refers to the martyrdom within the faith, but my friend said in his vision, he went into a palace, a kind of ark, that was decorated in crimson carpets and the color of the walls were shades of red. He says it was very peaceful and beautiful, and those Baha'is who passed to the next world, faithful, would step in that palace.

Now, I , too, have had visions of the next world. It was a HUGE palace; Nothing much in it, but REALLY elegant. a few statues. all the walls and floors and even the very high ceilings were made of cream marble, so shining. There were no windows or lamps and yet, in all the hallways there was a delicate, soft light, not as penetrating as the sun; much more delicate. There were many rooms; in each room, different groups of people. for example in one room, people like Socrates were having spiritual discussions. there was a very soft tune being heard all over the palace; something like a classic song but MUCH MORE softer. and at the end of the hall there was a Throne that was very shining. The palace is so beautiful, I imagine it every time I do meditatio. it is so peaceful and quiet that one can hear her own breath, and after visiting it, no worldly monuments look beautiful anymore.

Now, does anyone here have visions of the next world? I would be very glad to hear yours. Maybe we can then gather all the visions together and have a general idea of how that place looks like
 
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Old 05-05-2018, 11:55 PM   #2
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Dear Maryamr, i had seen my grand mothers in my dreams. They had already passed. I am not sure if that Would count as dream of next world??
 
Old 05-07-2018, 06:23 AM   #3
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Dear Maryamr, i had seen my grand mothers in my dreams. They had already passed. I am not sure if that Would count as dream of next world??
well, I guess it can. although sometimes dream are symbolic of our own lives; but yes they could be your belated grandmothers
 
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Well, I have thought about this but then to see rooms or buildings I seem to need my eyes and to move about them my body, neither of which I envisage taking to the next world. Conceiving the very nature of a totally non-physical existence taxes my mind!

I think this is an interesting quotation:

"Bahá'u'lláh says that were we to have the proper vision to see the blessings of the other world we would not bear to endure one more hour of existence upon the earth. The reason why we are deprived of that vision is because otherwise no one would care to remain and the whole fabric of society will be destroyed."

(Compilations, Lights of Guidance, p. 207)
 
Old 05-08-2018, 08:46 AM   #5
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Well, I have thought about this but then to see rooms or buildings I seem to need my eyes and to move about them my body, neither of which I envisage taking to the next world. Conceiving the very nature of a totally non-physical existence taxes my mind!

I think this is an interesting quotation:

"Bahá'u'lláh says that were we to have the proper vision to see the blessings of the other world we would not bear to endure one more hour of existence upon the earth. The reason why we are deprived of that vision is because otherwise no one would care to remain and the whole fabric of society will be destroyed."

(Compilations, Lights of Guidance, p. 207)

I admire your good thinking dear Pollwr;

yes, we do need an "organ" to see with, which is namely the "physical eye"in this world. But then there is the matter of the "eye of the soul". You will admit it,no doubt, that what we see during our sleeping states at night, we do not see with the physical eye; it is a purely spiritual act. Now, I think it will be the same in the next world. And in my opinion, the soul has got all the abilities the body has, even in a better more ACCURATE manner. Thus the soul, I dare say, can smell, sense, see, hear, and think.
Now to the matter of why do we need "houses" in the next world, since houses are to keep our physical bodies safe and sound, well, that is the way we can get it as long as we are in this world. I mean, there, in the next world, are no bricks of clay, no windows made of glasses, but there are "spiritual places". Yet, since our minds, as long as we are in this world, cannot have any idea of how it may look in the next world, it transmits the pictures to us, using our familiar objects.
What I mostly value is the "feeling" those places have to me whenever I see them in dreams or meditations. The building itself is the way my mind transfers the image to me but the feeling is exact; utter peacefulness, deep silence that does not bother at all, very very mild and light air, and no annoying hot light.
Now, I am sure you know what I am talking about , and I dare say you agree (do you? )
But I will still be glad to hear of your ideas about how the next world may look.

P.S: Regarding that saying of Bahaul'lah, I DO agree. what I have considered as to be the sight of the next world has been so glamorously beautiful that each time I regretted having to live longer on earth. Here on earth everything looks dark, dirty, heavy, and shabby in comparison to the spiritual world. So yes, I would not endure seeing more of that place, except for if I can gain ABSOLUTE detachment from heaven (that is what is advised to us several time)
 
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yes, we do need an "organ" to see with, which is namely the "physical eye"in this world. But then there is the matter of the "eye of the soul". You will admit it,no doubt, that what we see during our sleeping states at night, we do not see with the physical eye; it is a purely spiritual act. Now, I think it will be the same in the next world. And in my opinion, the soul has got all the abilities the body has, even in a better more ACCURATE manner. Thus the soul, I dare say, can smell, sense, see, hear, and think.
I have no doubt you are right, maryamr. I also have total faith I have a soul as does each person. I have probably found this through the Bahá'í writings and writings of other religions. It is, currently, a limitation of mine that I cannot quite imagine the world beyond this one in any detail. Sometimes I think of souls as glowing points in a infinite world, somehow moving and communicating with one another in the darkness, growing in intensity of the light they omit as they recognise and join with loved ones. There seems a strange sound, a sort of hum that is beautiful.

I wish I could feel my soul a bit more in this life and see the soul in others rather than the distracting wrapping. I strive to look for the light of God in everyone but this is often well hidden from me. I would hope that that is all we would see in others in the next world. Just imagine, a little burst of joy each time one set eyes on another person, how blissful that would be. Instead sometimes feelings of suspicion or anger or mistrust sometimes are there.

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The building itself is the way my mind transfers the image to me but the feeling is exact; utter peacefulness, deep silence that does not bother at all, very very mild and light air, and no annoying hot light.
Now, I am sure you know what I am talking about , and I dare say you agree (do you? )
Yes, I think I know what you are talking about and we can only really build on our experience to make sense of it all.

I have heard it suggested that after death each person may experience their own concept of an afterlife which is an interesting idea.
 
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Sometimes I think of souls as glowing points in a infinite world, somehow moving and communicating with one another in the darkness, growing in intensity of the light they omit as they recognise and join with loved ones. There seems a strange sound, a sort of hum that is beautiful.
I really liked this image of glowing points; just like the stars In a book named Private Dowding (you can find it in Baha'i Library) I read that the souls after their departure from this world, enter into cycles of learning. In each cycles, souls with the same level of understanding receive knowledge from their teacher. and then in each cycle the souls glow in a different way. The lower their understanding and purity, the fainter and unclearer their glow. But as for really high souls, they have a very shining quality.

Now you mentioned that you wish to be ale to see people's souls rather than just the body. well, I think that is possible -in visions- through reading and understanding the true nature of human being in the Baha'i writings, Islamic, Bible and then people like Socrates. Once you really understand it, you'll start to see it
 
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