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Old 12-21-2010, 10:29 PM   #1
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Hello all,

I was just wondering if anyone here would like to share opinions pertaining to the current ongoing situation in the Koreas.

Let's get a discussion going!
 
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Old 12-22-2010, 01:21 AM   #2
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Hello all,

I was just wondering if anyone here would like to share opinions pertaining to the current ongoing situation in the Koreas.

Let's get a discussion going!
This might be somewhat difficult to get off the ground, since Baha'is are taught not to involve themselves in political discussions.

Needless to say that I, personally, do not approve of the actions of either side, and hope casualties are kept to a minimum while they continue presenting to one another as if they are beetles competing for a mate. I pray it does not become more than that, also.
 
Old 12-22-2010, 09:06 PM   #3
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...Baha'is are taught not to involve themselves in political discussions.
Is this true? I'm a Baha'i and I never knew that
Does discussion of situations such as that in Korea fall under topics to try to stay away from?
 
Old 12-22-2010, 11:17 PM   #4
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Well we don't get involved in partisanship.... Korea has impacted my life but it was a long time ago when my father was called into active duty in the early fifties.. but I'm not all that familiar with the background even so to make many comments as such..

The United Nations of course was involved at that time

The United Nations and the Korean War

Korean War Educator: United Nations Involvment

and is concerned about the current situation. So there is potential for there to be an escalation.. and nuclear weapons could be involved.

I think Baha'is generally would be in favor of a reduction of the tensions and a way that both sides could resolve these issues.. however, I don't think there's any official statement as yet from the Baha'i International Community on the issue.

There is also a Korean Baha'i community:

http://www.bahai.or.kr/html/main.php

and

http://www.onecountry.org/e113/e11313ac_korea.htm

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Old 12-23-2010, 03:33 AM   #5
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Is this true? I'm a Baha'i and I never knew that
Does discussion of situations such as that in Korea fall under topics to try to stay away from?
My understanding is that we should avoid all political discussions that cause enmity and divide us. It is entirely likely that there are Baha'is in North and South Korea, and thus it could potentially offend people if anyone took either side.

Many seem to take a different view to me of the readings, but for me, the goal of not participating in political discussions of any sought is to eventually render government obsolete. If no one participates in it, how can government retain power? I believe this will eventually be how Baha'is peacefully cause a single City on Earth. Many, however, do indeed vote, they simply do not register for a particular party. Baha'u'llah has stated that, should a country decide to adopt Baha'i Law, it would be good for them, but Baha'is cannot take a country by force. I don't see any other way to eventually have Baha'i Law accepted other than simply not confirming the power of the countries government. If less and less people vote these people into power, how can they validate it?

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Old 12-23-2010, 06:00 AM   #6
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It is entirely likely that there are Baha'is in North and South Korea, and thus it could potentially offend people if anyone took either side.

Well we know there are Baha'is in (South) Korea but I don't think any one knows if there are any Baha'is in (North) Korea..

North Korea
Both the 2005 the Association of Religion Data Archives[124] (relying on the World Christian Encyclopedia for adherents estimates[125]) and independent research[126] agree there are no Bahá'ís in North Korea though Bahá'ís did enter the Korean Peninsula in 1921 before the Division of Korea.[127]


Bahá'í Faith by country - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

If there are Baha'is in (North) Korea I'm thinking they'd probably have more in common with each other or other Baha'is than with their governments.. Families have been separated from each other by the divisions in Korea still make contact:

http://articles.latimes.com/2009/oct...korea-reunion4

We know as Baha'is how these divisions keep people from each other and how eventually the differences can be resolved I think...

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Old 12-23-2010, 06:43 AM   #7
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It is entirely likely that there are Baha'is in North and South Korea, and thus it could potentially offend people if anyone took either side.

Well we know there are Baha'is in (South) Korea but I don't think any one knows if there are any Baha'is in (North) Korea..

North Korea
Both the 2005 the Association of Religion Data Archives[124] (relying on the World Christian Encyclopedia for adherents estimates[125]) and independent research[126] agree there are no Bahá'ís in North Korea though Bahá'ís did enter the Korean Peninsula in 1921 before the Division of Korea.[127]


Bahá'í Faith by country - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

If there are Baha'is in (North) Korea I'm thinking they'd probably have more in common with each other or other Baha'is than with their governments.. Families have been separated from each other by the divisions in Korea still make contact:

Relatives from North and South Korea meet again - Los Angeles Times

We know as Baha'is how these divisions keep people from each other and how eventually the differences can be resolved I think...
I'm not entirely sure how what you state here is related to the topic at hand. There being no Baha'is in North Korea doesn't validate us siding with the South in my view. I have many personal opinions about the leaders in the North, but I also cannot support the actions of the South that are only egging the North on.

I simply hope the foolishness ends quickly.
 
Old 12-23-2010, 07:13 AM   #8
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It would probably be inadvisable to make comments that would appear to side with either nation. Even if there are no Baha'is in DPRK today we still don't know what might break loose there in the future, so some caution is a good thing. I'm happy to let those who need to work on the Lesser Peace work on that. I have other priorities.

I pretty much restrict my comments (done elsewhere) to matters of military history and doctrine that may serve to inform the wider public, with no editorializing from me. And that's only because (oddly), my husband and I are fond of the subject of military history.

I'm sure some of our Baha'i friends find it curious that we read up on military history and do wargaming, but one thing about our interest is the more you learn the more you realize how vital it is to find a way to end wars.

"Collateral damage" is such a nice phrase, isn't it?

The reality is a true horror of both physical and spiritual pain and the damage spreads far beyond the areas where the violence occurs and down generations.
 
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