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04-01-2009, 04:48 PM
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| Junior Member  Joined: Mar 2009 Posts: 24 From: USA | Why a messenger after Muhammad?
Hello all, Due to my readings and interest in shia islam, I am a bit confused as to why there would need to be a messenger after the Prophet Muhammad. He seemed to be the perfect example and he seemed to bring the perfect religion for ALL of mankind. He was uniting tribes and races. He spoke that people are not superior to others due to skin color but only through their levels of god consciousness. He came with the book the quran that has never been tampered with and his life has been passed down from his sleep to his waking life, and to his death. I just dont see why we need another mesenger if Muhammad came with such a complete message and his life and religion has been preserved. Are there any bahai explanations to this? Thanks |
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04-01-2009, 04:52 PM
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| Junior Member Joined: Mar 2009 Posts: 24 From: USA |
Also how come the prophecies are so ambiguous? If God wants us to have guidance why is it so difficult? It seems detailed in islam that the Prophet Muhammad was the final prophet and messenger. From both the Quran and Hadith. How do we accept Bahaullah? I am not looking for a debate but Im looking to perhaps become convinced of bahaullah. Also could someone link me to some good writings by bahaullah? |
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04-01-2009, 08:54 PM
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| Senior Member  Joined: Jun 2006 Posts: 733 From: California |
Seeker you wrote: I just dont see why we need another mesenger if Muhammad came with such a complete message and his life and religion has been preserved. Are there any bahai explanations to this? Thanks You must decide this issue for yourself.. I am not going to argue here with you or attempt to convert you... It is your personal search and what we Baha'is call the independent investigation of reality or truth that you embark upon and decide for yourself... Read some of the references I've already posted and reach your own conclusions. - Art |
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04-02-2009, 03:28 AM
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| Junior Member Joined: Mar 2009 Posts: 24 From: USA |
Im not asking for arguments with me. I just want a clear bahai view and reason. I am very close to bahai faith. To be honest i would love bahai to be the true religion for me because I dont want my father to leave this world and be damned to hell for eternity just because he is christian. But before I convert to the bahai faith i want to be 100000 percent certain.
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04-02-2009, 08:42 AM
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| Senior Member Joined: Jun 2006 Posts: 733 From: California | Quote:
All these holy, divine Manifestations are one. They have served one God, promulgated the same truth, founded the same institutions and reflected the same light. Their appearances have been successive and correlated; each one has announced and extolled the one who was to follow and all laid the foundation of reality. They summoned and invited the people to love and made the human world a mirror of the Word of God. Therefore the divine religions they established have one foundation; their teachings, proofs and evidences are one; in name and form they differ but in reality they agree and are the same. These holy Manifestations have been as the coming of springtime in the world. Although the springtime of this year is designated by another name according to the changing calendar, yet as regards its life and quickening it is the same as the springtime of last year. For each spring is the time of a new creation, the effects, bestowals, perfections and life-giving forces of which are the same as those of the former vernal seasons although the names are many and various. ~ Abdul-Baha Foundations of World Unity, p. 23. Also we don't accept that anyone is "damned to hell for eternity".. all souls will pass through we believe the worlds of God and will eventually come into His Holy Presence.. If your father loves God and tries to lead a virtuous life he should not fear and neither should you. As you are aware no doubt: Verily, whether it be of those who believe, or those who are Jews or Christians or Sabaeans, whosoever believe in God and the last day and act aright, they have their reward at their Lord's hand, and there is no fear for them, nor shall they grieve. (The Qur'an (E.H. Palmer tr), Sura 2 - The Heifer) | |
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04-02-2009, 09:53 AM
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| Junior Member Joined: Mar 2009 Posts: 24 From: USA |
The Bahai faith is so interesting. A lot of it makes sense. I feel a bit drawn to it. I suppose I will keep looking into it. If i can get through my doubts of Prophet Muhammad being last prophet then im sure I will accept Bahai. I will take it slow though. Thanks for the response.
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04-02-2009, 02:46 PM
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| Senior Member Joined: Jun 2006 Posts: 733 From: California |
There's an interesting essay about the term Seal of the Prophets that I would commend to you.. http://bahai-library.com/essays/seal.html - Art |
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07-29-2009, 07:08 PM
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| Junior Member  Joined: Jun 2009 Posts: 15 From: Los Angeles |
Here's a similar thread, I stumbled on another forum: Baha'i Library Forum • View topic - WHy a Messenger after Muhammad? Last edited by WTTL; 07-29-2009 at 07:10 PM. |
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12-31-2009, 10:04 AM
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| Junior Member  Joined: Dec 2009 Posts: 19 From: Nebraska |
First, I would like to quote myself: "Baha'is believe that there are two kinds of Prophets: Lesser Prophets and Greater Prophets. Someone can be only a Lesser Prophet, only a Greater Prophet, or both. Krishna, Buddha, Zoroaster, Abraham, Moses, Jesus, Muhammad, the Bab, and Baha'u'llah are Greater Prophets which still have existing religions today. More Greater Prophets include Adam and Noah. Muhammad in particular was both a Greater Prophet and Lesser Prophet. However, He was the last of the Lesser Prophets. We believe that that is what is one reason why Muhammad was the Seal of the Prophets." (-Me, Manifestation of God?) Baha'is additionally believe that each Manifestation is part of a Cycle of Manifestations. The Adamic Cycle is the Cycle that Adam started, hence the name of the cycle. It includes Noah, Krishna, Buddha, Zoroaster, Abraham, Moses, Jesus, and Muhammad (the Bab inaugurated the Baha'i Cycle, which was continued by Baha'u'llah). Thus, Muhammad was the last Manifestation of the Adamic Cycle; He "sealed" it. |
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