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Old 01-14-2016, 04:29 PM   #1
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Bahai views on middle eastern conflicts

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I'm curious about the general stance that Bahai takes on the current wars being fought in the world... I know this will vary for the individual, but it would be nice to get a general feel and hear a few voices...

I grow up in a Western country and the majority of people are caught up in the belief that muslims are evil and that the west represents freedom and democracy. so they take a view that America are the heroes and that Isis and the radicalist groups are the bad guys that need to be killed (obviously there's a lot more grey area than this).

But knowing that Bahaism acknowledges each religion as an evolutionary process allowing for a closer relationship with God, then objectively, all moral assumptions aside, the ethics for living laid out by Muhammad are more likely to be progressive and relevant today than those of the bible...
While I'm sure we can all agree that violence is not a method for peace, I fail to see how people can view an Isis militant beheading a single Westerner as an act of pure evil, while simultaneously supporting Drone strikes that facelessly kill hundreds of innocent people.
I feel that if we were to look objectively we can see that the American government and the western countries that support them don't practice the teachings of their religion, and neither do Isis.
But if I was to put myself in the shoes of a person that though that violence could bring about peace, and I was wanting to choose a target that is most responsible for the problems we face in the world today, I would of course turn towards globalisation and the way that big business moves their capital freely towards cheap labour and extortion or people and land and destroys the planet and people's happiness in the process. Following this logic, if I was to support violence, it would make sense to support those attacking the world trade centre over the people bombing the poor in the Middle East.

I'm assuming most people on this forum are from Westernised countries, so I'm curious to know what your stance is? Do you support the Wests efforts to stabilise the middle east, or do you think that the West is more backwards than anyone else on the planet, and it's them that needs to change?
 
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Old 01-14-2016, 04:58 PM   #2
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Hello and Welcome to Baha'I Forums!

In my view, the Baha'I Faith does not have a political view on what's going on in the World. In Baha'I gatherings, Baha'is don't talk about such issues such as the Problems in the middle east.
As regards to Muhammad's revelation, Baha'I Faith confirms it, but it says the Laws and ordinences are abrogated and replaced by the Baha'I Laws which we believe are suitable for this Age.
One of the goals of Baha'I Revelation is oneness of mankind and establishment of World peace. I see the problems in the world, as a result of rejecting the Baha'I Faith by majority of the people of the earth. There is also a sense chastising by God, when people of the earth do not follow the ways of God. The wars can be seen as kind of chastising.
 
Old 01-14-2016, 06:26 PM   #3
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Hello
Thank you for your informative reply.

Would you say that the general consensus amongst Bahai would be that activist actions and getting involved in world events is less important than focusing on ones own spiritual path and being an example to others of how to come into relationship with God?
 
Old 01-14-2016, 09:26 PM   #4
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Hello
Thank you for your informative reply.

Would you say that the general consensus amongst Bahai would be that activist actions and getting involved in world events is less important than focusing on ones own spiritual path and being an example to others of how to come into relationship with God?
Very much so. But that doesn't preclude that we have personal views and that clues to world events, and how we could relate to them, can be found in our writings.

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Old 01-15-2016, 09:30 AM   #5
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Great questions! I will offer my interpretation of the Writings.

Baha'is must be concerned with the affairs current in the world, and are called to engage in discourse on such issues as are current among the people. But we are forbidden from participating in partisan movements, or any causes that promote disunity.

Religious fanaticism is condemned by Baha'u'llah. Religious warfare is condemned completely unambiguously. According to the Baha'i Writings, the only just way to stop a hostile nation or violent uprising is for a coalition of nations to address it militarily as a united front.

Based on these positions, I would argue that the Baha'i position on ISIS is that it should be addressed by a united coalition of nations, such as the United Nations, until ISIS ceases to promote international violence.
 
Old 01-17-2016, 12:19 AM   #6
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An interesting perspective, thanks for sharing.
 
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