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Old 05-09-2016, 05:08 PM   #1
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Nazarethan Baha'i faith

Differences with Baha'i Faith

Basic beliefs

Sacred texts: Bible & Book of Jesus (BofJ) by Paweł S.

BIBLE :"You mademe a servant, I led the people of the righteous to eternal Word of yours. Reaching the hills I want your spirit , but I do not know everything and do not fully understand you completely . : You are not available to those whocan not hear you, plugging ears to the Word of God. ' You give , however , access to those who still reads the verses of your glory."BofJ

JESUS:
"Truly , Jesus , son of Mary is not God, but he is similar to God .Jesus is the source of divine power on earth , their brightness can not compare the truth to sunlight , but it is his only equal thoughts, deeds and words .Truly , Jesus is the Word of Alllah" BofJ

Baha'u'llah :"And what I say about my Baha'u'llahu precursor , it is not the Lord of life and death, he was not a prophet and a sage is good has arisen over the evil of this world."BofJ

Literally Resurrection of Jesus :"..and thanks to appearance he risen . Jesus is the divine man , a literal child of God the Father."BofJ

SATAN
:"How can Satan in his great pride , boasted to their ruin and destruction . Their spirit is a life forever with God , and the Lord shall raise them [people of God] reign with him forever. So where is the power of Satan against us , hehas no power over us. ' he is defeated , but to me that we are royal sons, the sons of God .
God is like a potter wheel still goes and creates a new world and deposited in each new creations of their hands .So what happens to our Kingdom on earth , if our left and got us here eternal punishment ?Verily Allah does not take revenge on us, he sends diseases and their not created .Indeed Satan is the creator of all evil on earth , poverty and disease and death."BofJ

Literally bodily Resurrection :"It is sad that many people do not believe in the resurrection . Did not want to see their loved ones , as they are clothed in fine linen, pure immortality ."BofJ

Prophet
:"Where is the Mahdi and our destination , where the division is engaged only . Did we not promise it is not the choice after all , but many are set up to follow the great teachings of the Book of God ( Bible )"BofJ

source of page - Home


Holy Day - Sabbath ( Saturday)-"if because of the sabbath, you turn
your foot . From doing your own pleasure on My holy day, And call the sabbath a delight,
the holy day of the LORD honorable,
And honor it, desisting from your own ways,
From seeking your own pleasure And speaking your own word,
" Bible KJV -Isaiah 58:13

Who is prophet Paweł S.?

I am from Poland , I has divine revelation from God.

If you are seeking God and immediately I answer to your questions.

e-mail to prophet : pawelszul557@gmail.com

Nazarethan Bahai faith view of Baha'u ' llah
1.Was the only reformer (mujjadid) NOT the prophet
2.Baha'u ' llah was wrong in many of th edogmas of faith
3. Baha'u ' llah has not fulfilled the prophecy of the return of second coming of Jesus Christ


Theology differences

1. God is one has no incarnations

Deuteronomy 6:4 "Hear, O Israel: The Lord our God, the Lord is one"

2. God is not a man

Number 23:19 "19 God is not a man, that he should lie; neither the son of man, that he should repent: hath he said, and shall he not do it? or hath he spoken, and shall he not make it good?"

3. God is not partialy ( God is not Trinity) , and it is not corporal

Exodus 20:4 " God is not a man, that he should lie; neither the son of man, that he should repent: hath he said, and shall he not do it? or hath he spoken, and shall he not make it good?"

4. God does not need mediators /prophets (as deputies of God)

Nor would he command you to take the angels and the prophets as lords. Would he command you to disbelieve after becoming submitters?” Quran 3:79-80

5. God can be understood by the common man if he would like to know him

God is a God of love

" The LORD, the LORD, the compassionate and gracious God, slow to anger, abounding in love and faithfulness, maintaining love to thousands, and forgiving wickedness, rebellion and sin." Exodus 34:6-7

6. God is righteous and think justly souls after death

Littelary Last Judgment will be occur "Before the LORD, for He is coming to judge the earth; He will judge the world with righteousness And the peoples with equity" Psalm 98:9

7. God cannot be present on the way human-speech is about the sin of idolatry. God is a spirit, it is not possible to understand the human mind

3 “You shall have no other gods beforeme.

4 “You shall not make for yourself an image in the form of anything in heaven above or on the earth beneath or in the waters below. 5 You shall not bow down to them or worship them; for I, the Lord your God, am a jealous God, punishing the children for the sin of the parents to the third and fourth generation of those who hate me, 6 but showing love to a thousand generations of those who love me and keep my commandments." Exodus 20:3-6


Many others differences
1. Law against legalism - salvation by faith alone in One God

Habakkuk 2:4 " 4 Behold, his soul which is lifted up is not upright in him: but the just shall live by his faith."

2. Do not pray daily , repentance is way to salvation

Proverbs 28:13 "He that covereth his sins shall not prosper: but whoso confesseth and forsaketh [them] shall have mercy."

3. Reject direction of quiblah/kabbah and ablution because God is omniscience and omnipotent

Isaiah 40:28 "Hast thou not known? hast thou not heard, [that] the everlasting God, the LORD, the Creator of the ends of the earth, fainteth not, neither is weary? [there is] no searching of his understanding."

4. Reject fasting . Fasting only applies to the anointed prophets and imams (priests)
5. Reject all bahai festivals ( also birthday of reformer Bahau'llah) . christian festivals who are pagan origin ( Christmas)

Jeremiah Chapter 10
"1 Hear ye the word which the LORD speaketh unto you, O house of Israel:
2 Thus saith the LORD, Learn not the way of the heathen, and be not dismayed at the signs of heaven; for the heathen are dismayed at them.
3 For the customs of the people [are] vain: for [one] cutteth a tree out of the forest, the work of the hands of the workman, with the axe.
4 They deck it with silver and with gold; they fasten it with nails and with hammers, that it move not.
5 They [are] upright as the palm tree, but speak not: they must needs be borne, because they cannot go. Be not afraid of them; for they cannot do evil, neither also [is it] in them to do good."

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Old 05-10-2016, 01:54 AM   #2
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Hmmm... If I go to McDonald's and ask for a hamburger without meat or bread, will it still be a hamburger?

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Old 05-10-2016, 02:01 AM   #3
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Unclean food

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Hmmm... If I go to McDonald's and ask for a hamburger without meat or bread, will it still be a hamburger?

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Unclean food list-
pork -

New International Version
"The pig is also unclean; although it has a divided hoof, it does not chew the cud. You are not to eat their meat or touch their carcasses". Deuteronomy 14:8
 
Old 05-10-2016, 05:06 AM   #4
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Differences with Baha'i Faith

Who is prophet Paweł Szul?

I am from Poland , I has divine revelation from God.
Oh dear! I rest my case.

Best

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Old 05-10-2016, 06:09 AM   #5
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This does not belong on this forum
 
Old 05-10-2016, 07:00 AM   #6
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I totally do agree with Noogan!

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Old 05-10-2016, 01:59 PM   #7
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Unclean food list-
pork -

New International Version
"The pig is also unclean; although it has a divided hoof, it does not chew the cud. You are not to eat their meat or touch their carcasses". Deuteronomy 14:8
The unclean food is to distort the Words of God to ones own benefit.

Baha'u'llah offers you this advice and I would request you consider it;

"Whoso layeth claim to a Revelation direct from God, ere the expiration of a full thousand years, such a man is assuredly a lying impostor. We pray God that He may graciously assist him to retract and repudiate such claim. Should he repent, God will, no doubt, forgive him. If, however, he persisteth in his error, God will, assuredly, send down one who will deal mercilessly with him. Terrible, indeed, is God in punishing! Whosoever interpreteth this verse otherwise than its obvious meaning is deprived of the Spirit of God and of His mercy which encompasseth all created things. Fear God, and follow not your idle fancies. Nay, rather follow the bidding of your Lord, the Almighty, the All-Wise".

Thisdlink is to the correct view of both the Bab and Baha'u'llah - Baha'i Reference Library

Regards Tony .

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Old 05-11-2016, 01:12 AM   #8
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Listen not to the people but God

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The unclean food is to distort the Words of God to ones own benefit.

Baha'u'llah offers you this advice and I would request you consider it;

"Whoso layeth claim to a Revelation direct from God, ere the expiration of a full thousand years, such a man is assuredly a lying impostor. We pray God that He may graciously assist him to retract and repudiate such claim. Should he repent, God will, no doubt, forgive him. If, however, he persisteth in his error, God will, assuredly, send down one who will deal mercilessly with him. Terrible, indeed, is God in punishing! Whosoever interpreteth this verse otherwise than its obvious meaning is deprived of the Spirit of God and of His mercy which encompasseth all created things. Fear God, and follow not your idle fancies. Nay, rather follow the bidding of your Lord, the Almighty, the All-Wise".

Thisdlink is to the correct view of both the Bab and Baha'u'llah - Baha'i Reference Library

Regards Tony .
I say according in the words of the Tanakh, pork meat and blood is unclean and not eat it. But you stopped ears and do not want to listen to God.
 
Old 05-11-2016, 01:08 PM   #9
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Our scriptures have now supplanted earlier writings by clarifying
 
Old 05-12-2016, 03:24 AM   #10
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Our scriptures have now supplanted earlier writings by clarifying
And the Holy Spirit says to me that your scriptures - the writings of Bahá ' u ' lláh and the Prophet Mohammed - Quran and prophet Jesus - the Gospel include plenty of errors.
 
Old 05-12-2016, 09:16 AM   #11
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Hi Becky, Nice to see you around.

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Old 05-12-2016, 09:33 AM   #12
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Stop!
You have a washing brain for many years dear Becky like so most of the Bahais , Christians and Muslims too
 
Old 05-12-2016, 09:35 AM   #13
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Stop!
Dear Becky, Someone here is not in its right mind. I guess it's rather a psychiatric issue.

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Old 05-12-2016, 10:06 AM   #14
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Dear Becky, Someone here is not in its right mind. I guess it's rather a psychiatric issue.

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I considered Baha'u'llah as a philosopher and great teacher but he done many mistakes. Had Baha'u'llah have mentally illness ? . Check for yourself what Baha'u'llah said "I am God the Father" and "return of the Jesus"-that's a terrible blasphemy God is eternal and NOT reincarnate to any bodies ( also Jesus is not God) !
 
Old 05-15-2016, 12:46 PM   #15
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better to ignore

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Everybody.....STOP!
Dear Becky, don't be upset, this person going by the name Babism is not a Baha'i and yes I would prefer they are ignored. There will always be opposition to God's Holy Word, but ignored it will wither and die.

Loving regards to you
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Old 05-15-2016, 01:08 PM   #16
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There is no such word as "nazarethan". Anything our anyone coming from Nazareth is called Nazarene!
 
Old 05-15-2016, 08:53 PM   #17
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if this forum is going to continue, it really needs to be moderated.
 
Old 05-16-2016, 07:32 AM   #18
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if this forum is going to continue, it really needs to be moderated.
Dear friends this has been consulted on before, we agreed to self moderate.
So simple to ignore, don't respond etc.
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Old 05-16-2016, 09:44 AM   #19
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I love Bahai

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Dear friends this has been consulted on before, we agreed to self moderate.
So simple to ignore, don't respond etc.
bill
Yes I am in the part baha'i and also muslim , christan and jew. I'm not here to destroy your Bahai faith from UHJ but to present you my point of view bahaism. There are many religions in the world, and everyone has the right to independent thinking in their own religion

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Old 05-16-2016, 02:00 PM   #20
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I can't remember when is the last time I ate popsicles :/

Way to go, summer ! : D
 
Old 05-17-2016, 01:11 PM   #21
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I can't remember when is the last time I ate popsicles :/

Way to go, summer ! : D
We also are having a gorgeous spell of weather
 
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