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Old 10-13-2017, 05:01 PM   #1
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The Seven Doors: Hindu Connections to Baha'i Beliefs

Greetings, all! As I was reading the Srimad-Bhagavatam today, I crafted a bit of a theory.

Particularly, I was reading the story of the four Kumaras, and their visit to Vaikuntha (A place akin to Heaven, the celestial home of Vishnu, where the righteous liberated ones live after physical death). I believe this story in the Srimad-Bhagavatam may connect with the teachings of Baha'i.

I will begin by talking about the four Kumaras. Over the past year, I have slowly collected up an extensive, ~18 page document, which is a chronology of all Manifestations, Gurus, prophets, seers, and even some other religious figures, which I place my faith in or have interest in. The four Kumaras are chronologically the earliest religious figures, and I approximate them to have lived in 104,207 BC (The specificness of this date is merely a product of the formula used to calculate when they lived based on the various Hindu measurements of time which I've also related to Baha'u'llah, seeing as if he is indeed the Kalki, that would mean he ended the Kali Yuga and ushered in a new era, which radically changes the measurements of time in Hinduism, since it means the Kali Yuga is much shorter than previously expected). Now, "Kumaras" typically translates to boys. They are called this because they were given the gift of looking young eternally, and are described as looking between 5-15 years of age throughout their lives. I personally consider them to be Gurus, though not Manifestations.

To retell the story briefly, by the use of "mystic yoga", the four Kumaras end up in Vaikuntha - I suspect this "mystic yoga" was a form of astral projection, and that this is an entirely spiritual event and thus not a literal one. This is what prompted me to search for alternative, nonliteral meanings to the story.

Now, in this home, there are seven doors in succession. Immediately, my mind jumped to the Seven Valleys - Thinking that these seven doors each represent a valley. Now, the Kumaras walk with ease through the first six. However, two people guard the final door. These two are rather insulting toward the Kumaras and decide not to let them in.

To me, it seems like the four Kumaras had been on a very spiritual journey indeed, and that they have finally come to the time where they are about to enter the Valley of True Poverty and Absolute Nothingness. They were finally about to reach the highest understanding of God, when something had blocked their path.

Now, I would love help with this, for the next part, I do not know how to interpret in relation to the previous:

When they are insulted and forbidden to enter, the four Kumaras become angered (I believe this is the only time this is ever seen of the Kumaras) and essentially state that these two do not truly belong in Vaikuntha, for they are supposed to emulate their Lord, but instead merely pose as emulators of Him when they are not truly the real thing. They resolve to cast them out of Vaikuntha.

It is with this, that the Lord appears to them all. The Kumaras are astonished at the beauty of the Lord, for they have never seem Him with their eyes before, but only in meditation. And the Lord agrees with the casting out of the two guards, however he also notes that they will be brought back into his presence shortly.

So they are cast back into the physical world, these two guards. And they live 3 lifetimes before they are returned to Vaikuntha.

For the ending of this, I think I see another connection to the teachings of Baha'u'llah. It is said that when one dies, their soul goes on a journey toward or away from God. Applying this to the story, we may see that this is definitely true - The fact that one may become so close to God that they may reach "Heaven", does not mean that they simply stay there. No, a person still grows, changes, and learns even post-mortem. These two started to move further away from God, however, as they learned and grew while away from God, they returned to Him once more, turning their hearts back toward Him whilst previously they turned their hearts away.

And I 'spose to God, 3 lifetimes away from him before returning is 'quickly' to Him.

Anyway. Just some food for thought for all of my friends in faith here.

Last edited by Saveyist; 10-13-2017 at 05:12 PM.
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