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Old 08-05-2015, 01:20 AM   #1
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"Glory" in the Writings

Dear friends,
. May we investigate the exalted term "Glory", so frequently used in the Baha'i Writings here. Any examples to explore the depths of this Holy word would we welcome and contribute to the thread.

. As a few beginning examples, let us refer to the opening of the Hidden Words:

. "He is the Glory of Glories"

. "This is that which hath descended from the "realm of Glory", uttered by the Tongue of Power and Might, and revealed unto the Prophets of old..."

. . . From the "realm of Glory" descends the Hidden Words..., and that which was given to the ancient prophets.


. also consider: Allah'u'Abha, God is Most "Glorious", with which we greet each other and chant 95 times per day!!!

. and Ya Baha'ul'Abha!! O Thou Glory of the All-Glorious!!

. and that the Blessed Perfection Himself is called "Baha"u'llah, the "Glory" of God...

. and the prayer for the Hands of the Cause of God:

. "Light and "Glory", greetings and praise, be upon the Hands of the Cause..."


Is not the sacred, Holy name of "Glory", the King of Words, descended from the "realm of Glory"? A realm so far above our domain, that we have in fact no Glory in existence except in rain down from the Heaven of Revelation, this Realm of Glory...


Anyone's thoughts and contribution to the topic of this "Glorious" thread would be most rewarding, awe-inspiring, and surely lead to a greater understanding of that mine which yields the "gem of divine virtue"

Ya Baha'ul'Abha!!

O Thou Glory of the All Glorious!!!

Baha'u'llah, the Glory of God!!

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Old 08-05-2015, 07:35 AM   #2
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Dear Dale this subject is so great, having no beginning and no end, is a well of knowledge with no end to its depth.
Before such Glory one can only kneel in awe, and speechlessness.

I look forward to the discussion.
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Old 08-05-2015, 10:34 AM   #3
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Dear Dale this subject is so great, having no beginning and no end, is a well of knowledge with no end to its depth.
Before such Glory one can only kneel in awe, and speechlessness.

I look forward to the discussion.
bill
We could also view Glory in Christianity and other religious contexts.

ACTS 7:55

"But Stephen, full of the Holy Spirit, looked up to heaven and saw the Glory of God and Jesus standing at the right hand of God."

EZEKIEL 11:23

"And the Glory of the Lord went up from the midst of the city and stood on the mountain that is on the east side of the city"

. . . Baha'is may interpret these passages as visions of Baha'u'llah

ACTS 7:55

"But Stephen, full of the Holy Spirit, looked up to heaven and saw Baha'u'llah and Jesus "standing" at the right hand of God."

EZEKIEL 11:23

"And the Baha'u'llah went up from the midst of the city "and stood" on the mountain that is on the east side of the city"

Also, Philipians 2:9

"... and every tongue confess that Jesus is Lord to Baha'u'llah (Glory of God) the Father."

John 11:40

"Jesus said to her. "Did I not tell you that if you believed you would see the Glory of God? (Baha'u'llah)?"
 
Old 08-05-2015, 12:14 PM   #4
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We could also view Glory in Christianity and other religious contexts.
Indeed, the "Glory of God" is an essential concept within Catholic mysticism as well.

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"...Whosoever then has, in his inward exercise, an imageless and free ascent unto his God, and means nought else but the glory of God, must taste of the goodness of God; and he must feel from within a true union with God. And in this union, the inward and spiritual life is made perfect...The God-seeing man who has forsaken self and all things, and does not feel himself drawn away because he no longer possesses anything as his own, but stands empty of all, he can always enter, naked and unencumbered with images, into the inmost part of his spirit. There he finds revealed an Eternal Light, and in this light, he feels the eternal demand of the Divine Unity; and he feels himself to be an eternal fire of love, which craves above all else to be one with God...And thus you may see that the indrawing Unity of God is nought else than the fathomless Love, which lovingly draws inward, in eternal fruition, the Father and the Son and all that lives in Them. And in this Love we shall burn and be burnt up without end, throughout eternity; for herein lies the blessedness of all spirits. And therefore we must all found our lives upon a fathomless abyss; that we may eternally plunge into Love, and sink down in the fathomless Depth. And with that same Love, we shall ascend, and transcend ourselves, in the incomprehensible Height. And in that Love which is wayless, we shall wander and stray, and it shall lead us and lose us in the immeasurable Breadth of the Love of God. And herein we shall flee forth and flee out of ourselves, into the unknown raptures of the Goodness and Riches of God. And therein we shall melt and be melted away, and shall eternally wander and sojourn within the Glory of God. Behold! by each of these images, I show forth to God-seeing men their being and their exercise, but none else can understand them. For the contemplative life cannot be taught. But where the Eternal Truth reveals Itself within the spirit all that is needful is taught and learnt..."

- Blessed John of Ruysbroeck (1293 – 1381), The Sparkling Stone
This occurs in other mystical traditions within Christianity, such as in the writings of Eastern Christian (in this case Nestorian) monks:

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"...The ground on which I have been proceeding has been altered before me. My intelligence has been astonished by the marvel which You provoke and henceforth I know myself as not existing...My soul from then on was remaining as if in annihilation but without passing away. Friends were blotted out of my heart, unloved as enemies from of old. When I became weak, for a time He left me like this, amazed at Him and what is His. From that time I was existing without mind as non-existing, without perception, without vision, and without hearing, but in amazement and great stillness. There is no movement or knowledge there since in the experienced one knowledge has forgotten itself and even how to know...[The soul] is supremely illumined again and penetrates into the holy and greatly resplendent light. It gets absorbed in the glory of vision and is amazed. [Then] everything is lifted from its sight as being non-existent, and [the soul] forgets itself, being united to the light of the glory of the Majesty. It is captivated by its beauty and sees the glorious Hypostases [of the Trinity] through knowledge, that is, through unknowing, which is higher than all knowledge and all those who know..."

- Saint John of Dalyatha (8th century), Letter 4,16; Discourse 8
The Vatican II Declaration Nostra Aetate likewise noted in relation to inter-religious unity:

Declaration on the Relation of the Church to non-christian religions - Nostra Aetate

Quote:
DECLARATION ON
THE RELATION OF THE CHURCH TO NON-CHRISTIAN RELIGIONS
NOSTRA AETATE
PROCLAIMED BY HIS HOLINESS
POPE PAUL VI
ON OCTOBER 28, 1965

1.In our time, when day by day mankind is being drawn closer together, and the ties between different peoples are becoming stronger, the Church examines more closely her relationship to non-Christian religions. In her task of promoting unity and love among men, indeed among nations, she considers above all in this declaration what men have in common and what draws them to fellowship.

One is the community of all peoples, one their origin, for God made the whole human race to live over the face of the earth.(1) One also is their final goal, God. His providence, His manifestations of goodness, His saving design extend to all men,(2) until that time when the elect will be united in the Holy City, the city ablaze with the glory of God, where the nations will walk in His light.(3)

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Old 08-06-2015, 07:47 AM   #5
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Dear Dale

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We could also view Glory in Christianity and other religious contexts.
That certainly is accepted dear friend, as all faiths coming from God hold the same message and truth.

bill
 
Old 08-06-2015, 10:30 AM   #6
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The Vatican II Declaration Nostra Aetate likewise noted in relation to inter-religious unity:

Declaration on the Relation of the Church to non-christian religions - Nostra Aetate
Thank you. That is some really great stuff. We are all being drawn like moths to the Light, to the Glory of God, like planets orbiting the sun. Even comets can't help themselves... ;-)
 
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