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Old 04-26-2017, 10:56 AM   #1
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Greetings from Mexico

Hi everyone

I am a Mexican 50 year old man who works for a Pharma company.

I was raised a Catholic, and then looked for truth in some Protestant churches.
I have read most of the Bible, the Quran and have had some insights into Buddhism.... but honestly, no other religion had raised such interest in my heart than Baha'i Faith. For all of you who use the Faith to spread peace and unity in the world, as well as pesonal spiritual development, my heartfelt admiration!!

To be honest, I admire all fundamentals of Bahai Faith, although I am skeptical on some specific views on how to live a good life (e.g. drinking alcohol, homosexuality, obligatory prayers)

I myself drink alcohol very ocassionally (and for years I drank zero alcohol) but as a physician I know the benefits of a moderate consumption of wine, or at least the lack of risk of a moderate consumption.

I am sexually faithful to my wife, but I can't condemn sex outside marriage if both partners are doing it with love, awareness and responsibility.

And I can appreciate the power of prayer, but I would find inappropriate to state that some prayers have an "obligatory" status, as prayer should be a free act of will and an outcome of God working in the individual mind.

Finally, I would like to welcome Baha'u'llah not as the final manifestation of God (meaning, there will be no more after him), but one more in a infinite sequence of manifestations, so that we can expect more like him in the future of mankind.

I guess some and other questions I have in my heart will be clarified little by little. I have so much to learn and I thanks in advance your patience in helping me !
 
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Old 04-26-2017, 11:36 AM   #2
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Welcome Camachoe, great to have you here, I see you are a doctor which is a great occupation serving humanity.

There is great things on health and healing in the Baha'I writings which will be a joy to talk about with you. A see Medical Science moving back to find healing by prevention of the causes, rather than prescribing for the symptoms.

There will most likely always be some things we do not understand with God's Laws and that is ok. Time helps us to understand that God knows best and is that is what God has given in this age, the wisdom is for a great reason. We are told if we follow the law and ask for understanding, it will come.

I will be interested the day they do tests on grape juice that is not turned to alcohol, most likely will have same benefit? I have lived in communities suffering from Alcohol related incidents and violence for many years, from that perspective I see much wisdom in the Law. But again, each person must find that wisdom for their own selves.

Obligatory prayer becomes a longing and it took me many years to change from the small prayer and also add the 99 repetitions of Allah'u'abha.

I see the law of Marriage now as a great bounty. We are given this Love to bring forth another to share in this Love. All that choose to not marry abide by the given laws on morality.

Yes in these days of excess Liberty, it takes a lot of soul searching on these matters.

It is great we can talk about it all.

Regards Tony
 
Old 04-26-2017, 12:49 PM   #3
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Hola Camachoe,

The Bahá'í Writings are rather like a buffet. So feel free to take what you like and adapt them into your life as you see fit. Do not stress yourself with any issue that you find too challenging to understand at this time. It really is a religion of learning to be very forgiving to yourself. So like with any course of learning just take one step at a time because behind every Bahá'í you will witness a series of spiritual obstacles they have had to learn how to overcome.

In my experience Latin Bahá'ís tend to bring a great deal of spiritual openness to the Bahá'í Faith because it is naturally present within the culture. Do appreciate that different cultures tend to excel in some areas of the Bahá'í Writings while facing challenges in other areas too. This is to be expected, but it also promotes cultures for their positive values too. To help appreciate this you might like to listen to a presentation by Don Ismael Velasco who has been involved in the Bahá'í Faith for around three decades now. He is from Mexico and as you will learn from the end of his presentation he is open with the challenges he still faces with the Bahá'í Faith too. Love and honesty tends to go hand-in-hand and it is this richness I very much admire with Latin culture.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=fKbBH80wABc

Earth
 
Old 04-26-2017, 08:04 PM   #4
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Thank you very much, Tony and Earth, for your warm welcome and for the recommendations.
 
Old 05-04-2017, 12:24 AM   #5
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Hi Camachoe and welcome.

Just a quick response to your statement that the Baha'i Faith believes that Baha'u'llah is the final Manifestation of God. There is no teaching that states this in Baha'i literature. In fact it is the contrary. There will always be Manifestations of God as part of God's eternal Covenant with man

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Old 05-04-2017, 06:53 AM   #6
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Hi Camachoe and welcome.

Just a quick response to your statement that the Baha'i Faith believes that Baha'u'llah is the final Manifestation of God. There is no teaching that states this in Baha'i literature. In fact it is the contrary. There will always be Manifestations of God as part of God's eternal Covenant with man

Kam
This makes me very happy.
Thank you, Kam.
 
Old 05-18-2017, 01:22 PM   #7
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Just to add I made my first obligatory prayers and prostrations!

It felt quite good

I have not still been at a Bahai meeting, but within 10 days I will be at one here in Mexico City. I'm so excited!
 
Old 05-18-2017, 01:34 PM   #8
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Just to add I made my first obligatory prayers and prostrations!

It felt quite good

I have not still been at a Bahai meeting, but within 10 days I will be at one here in Mexico City. I'm so excited!
Good on you, enjoy the journey, it is an amazing bounty to live in these times and be given the chance to serve all Humanity.

I wish you all knowledge of your own good self in this journey.

Be well and be happy, Regards Tony
 
Old 07-18-2017, 07:43 AM   #9
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I will declare within seven hours at a devotional gathering here in Mexico City.
The card with the requested personal information is already in my hands, all filled out and ready to be handed.
I am so happy and a bit nervous!!
Feels like getting married!

I confess I feel afraid of failing, not living up to the standards of the Revelation... the road ahead looks so long and winding... but I can't just help it... I am in love with the Message of Bahá'u'llah... I have tried to fight it... and I have surrendered little by little, day after day... and you all, my friends, have helped me a lot so far.

You indeed have no idea of how much your candid, smart, patient way to interact with me and with each other at this Forum have helped me in taking this decision.

Alláh'u'Abhá to every one!

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Old 07-18-2017, 12:02 PM   #10
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Alláh'u'Abhá Camachoe,

Be happy, be happy, be happy!

Your spiritual brother,
Earth

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O God! Refresh and gladden my spirit. Purify my heart. Illumine my powers. I lay all my affairs in Thy hand. Thou art my Guide and my Refuge. I will no longer be sorrowful and grieved; I will be a happy and joyful being. O God! I will no longer be full of anxiety, nor will I let trouble harass me. I will not dwell on the unpleasant things of life. O God! Thou art more friend to me than I am to myself. I dedicate myself to Thee, O Lord.

'Abdu'l-Bahá
 
Old 07-18-2017, 12:16 PM   #11
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I will declare within seven hours at a devotional gathering here in Mexico City.
The card with the requested personal information is already in my hands, all filled out and ready to be handed.
I am so happy and a bit nervous!!
Feels like getting married!

I confess I feel afraid of failing, not living up to the standards of the Revelation... the road ahead looks so long and winding... but I can't just help it... I am in love with the Message of Bahá'u'llah... I have tried to fight it... and I have surrendered little by little, day after day... and you all, my friends, have helped me a lot so far.

You indeed have no idea of how much your candid, smart, patient way to interact with me and with each other at this Forum have helped me in taking this decision.

Alláh'u'Abhá to every one!


Allah'u'abha and Well done to you, Little by Little day by day.

I wish you all good on your journey and remember we are always here to help each other, each in our given capacity.

Enjoy and be happy always.

Regards Tony
 
Old 07-18-2017, 08:05 PM   #12
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Congratulations Camachoe. I welcome you into this most beautiful garden of God.
 
Old 07-19-2017, 04:29 AM   #13
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I thank you all for your warm welcome and kind words.

Yesterday was a sweet evening. The host of the devotional gathering even brought a cake to celebrate my declaration and I felt loved. My wife was there with me all the time, supportive and showing sincere interest in the Faith.

I know the Spirit of God was there, pervading through the love of the friends.
 
Old 07-19-2017, 12:24 PM   #14
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I thank you all for your warm welcome and kind words.

Yesterday was a sweet evening. The host of the devotional gathering even brought a cake to celebrate my declaration and I felt loved. My wife was there with me all the time, supportive and showing sincere interest in the Faith.

I know the Spirit of God was there, pervading through the love of the friends.

Thank you for the follow up, I pray for you and your wife a rewarding path forward. It is very special having a partner in the Spiritual Journey.

Regards Tony
 
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