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Old 05-19-2018, 12:12 PM   #1
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Forgiveness

I have have just committed a really bad sin and I don't know how to forgive myself for being a bad bahai. Will I ever get over this feeling of regret which is giving me depression? Will God forgive me even though I knew what I was doing was wrong? I an extremely regretful of what I have done and dont know how I can forgive myself. Does anyone know any stories of people who sinned and repented
 
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Old 05-19-2018, 12:46 PM   #2
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My dear, the fact you are guilty is a great sign that you are dear to God. God is The All Forgiving, please say a forgiveness prayer and trust you have been forgiven, we all fall short although we must strive for perfection. God forgives those who ask for it. 'The breaths of forgiveness are being wafted from the region of your Lord, the Merciful; he who advanceth unto them will necessarily be purified from disobedience and from every disease and infirmity. Blessed is he who cometh unto them, and woe unto him who turneth away.' (Bahá’u’lláh, Baha’i Scriptures, p. 105) may God strengthen you, love and protect you
 
Old 05-19-2018, 01:22 PM   #3
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My dear, the fact you are guilty is a great sign that you are dear to God. God is The All Forgiving, please say a forgiveness prayer and trust you have been forgiven, we all fall short although we must strive for perfection. God forgives those who ask for it. 'The breaths of forgiveness are being wafted from the region of your Lord, the Merciful; he who advanceth unto them will necessarily be purified from disobedience and from every disease and infirmity. Blessed is he who cometh unto them, and woe unto him who turneth away.' (Bahá’u’lláh, Baha’i Scriptures, p. 105) may God strengthen you, love and protect you
You might be the kindest Baha’i I ever met.

What you just said reminded me of a quote from Abdu’l-Baha that says that any sin can be forgiven except for hating the Holy Spirit that comes from God. I guess hating the Holy Spirit is the same thing as hating God, and hating God is the same thing as hating the Holy Spirit.

So unless our friend has hated the Holy Spirit or God, anything that he/she has done can be forgiven.

Question.—“Wherefore I say unto you, All manner of sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven unto men: but the blasphemy against the Holy Ghost shall not be forgiven unto men. And whosoever speaketh a word against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him: but whosoever speaketh against the Holy Ghost, it shall not be forgiven him, neither in this world, neither in the world to come.”—(Matt. 12:31–32).....
Answer.—If a soul remains far from the manifestation, he may yet be awakened; for he did not recognize the manifestation of the divine perfections. But if he loathe the divine perfections themselves—in other words, the Holy Spirit—it is evident that he is like a bat which hates the light.....
The meaning is this: to remain far from the light-holder does not entail everlasting banishment, for one may become awakened and vigilant; but enmity toward the light is the cause of everlasting banishment, and for this there is no remedy.

Some Answered Questions, pp. 127-128

How I interpret that is that any sin can be forgiven except for hating God. So even if I have followed all the Baha’i Laws I might not be forgiven because I have hated God. I just hope God understands why I have hated Him, and still do at times. I am struggling as hard as I can. I do not think I will ever love God but the best I can hope for is neutrality.

And I will still do my work for Baha’u’llah which is really work for God, in spite of how I feel, because I try to put my feelings aside and do what I know is right. I think I am wrong when I say I will never forgive God for all the suffering I have endured, but I do not know I am wrong. The thoughts just won’t go away because it makes no sense to me that a benevolent God would allow suffering. So for me it is a logical problem and faith cannot overcome it, at least not thus far.
 
Old 05-19-2018, 07:58 PM   #4
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Does anyone know any stories of people who sinned and repented
Good morning dear friend

I can think immediately of one story.Was Saul, became Paul.

Whatever we may think of our self, it is, if negative, usually more severe than the occasion warrants.

Through that which we do wrong we learn how to do that which is right.

My main responses are in the other thread.

With my most warm greetings

Romane
 
Old 05-19-2018, 11:14 PM   #5
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My dear, the fact you are guilty is a great sign that you are dear to God. God is The All Forgiving, please say a forgiveness prayer and trust you have been forgiven, we all fall short although we must strive for perfection. God forgives those who ask for it. 'The breaths of forgiveness are being wafted from the region of your Lord, the Merciful; he who advanceth unto them will necessarily be purified from disobedience and from every disease and infirmity. Blessed is he who cometh unto them, and woe unto him who turneth away.' (Bahá’u’lláh, Baha’i Scriptures, p. 105) may God strengthen you, love and protect you
Thank you everyone for your kind replies. I just don't know how to get over what I have done. The feeling of regret I'm having is leading me to depression and is affecting my studies.
Will I ever get over this?
 
Old 05-20-2018, 10:17 AM   #6
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Thank you for such kind words dear @trailblazer. Now on to the question of how you can overcome your guilt even when you are forgiven, firstly you must mentally make a shift of a pure being as your slate is forgiven and from there if one wants happiness he must turn towards the light, this is more to do with turning towards the counsels of Bahá'u'lláh. True happiness is not promised in being forgiven, but turning wholly towards Bahá'u'lláh. 'There is no peace for thee save by renouncing thyself and turning unto Me'
 
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