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Old 04-27-2018, 07:30 AM   #1
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Korea moves towards Peace and Unity

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Old 04-27-2018, 10:29 AM   #2
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Korea moves towards Peace and Unity
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I have nothing to say on the matter (at the moment) except the title.
As far short as they may fall, I certainly cannot comment negatively about any efforts made the world’s political leaders that can potentially inch (milometer) humanity toward that “Lesser Peace” spoken of by Baha’u’llah. The alternative consequences are catastrophic. In Shoghi Effendi’s letter dated March 11, 1936, and titled ‘The Unfoldment of World Civilization’, he writes:


No machinery falling short of the standard inculcated by the Bahá'í Revelation, and at variance with the sublime pattern ordained in His teachings, which the collective efforts of mankind may yet devise can ever hope to achieve anything above or beyond that "Lesser Peace" to which the Author of our Faith has Himself alluded in His writings. "Now that ye have refused the Most Great Peace," He, admonishing the kings and rulers of the earth, has written, "hold ye fast unto this the Lesser Peace, that haply ye may in some degree better your own condition and that of your dependents." Expatiating on this Lesser Peace, He thus addresses in that same Tablet the rulers of the earth: "Be reconciled among yourselves, that ye may need no more armaments save in a measure to safeguard your territories and dominions... Be united, O kings of the earth, for thereby will the tempest of discord be stilled amongst you, and your peoples find rest, if ye be of them that comprehend. Should any one among you take up arms against another, rise ye all against him, for this is naught but manifest justice."

The Most Great Peace, on the other hand, as conceived by Bahá'u'lláh--a peace that must inevitably follow as the practical consequence of the spiritualization of the world and the fusion of all its races, creeds, classes and nations--can rest on no other basis, and can be preserved through no other agency, except the divinely appointed ordinances that are implicit in the World Order that stands associated with His Holy Name. In His Tablet, revealed almost seventy years ago to Queen Victoria, Bahá'u'lláh, alluding to this Most Great Peace, has declared: "That which the Lord hath ordained as the sovereign remedy and mightiest instrument for the healing of all the world is the union of all its peoples in one universal Cause, one common Faith. This can in no wise be achieved except through the power of a skilled, an all-powerful and inspired Physician. This, verily, is the truth, and all else naught but error... Consider these days in which the Ancient Beauty, He Who is the Most Great Name, hath been sent down to regenerate and unify mankind. Behold how with drawn swords they rose against Him, and committed that which caused the Faithful Spirit to tremble. And whenever We said unto them: `Lo, the World Reformer is come,' they made reply: `He, in truth, is one of the stirrers of mischief.'" "It beseemeth all men in this Day," He, in another Tablet, asserts, "to take firm hold on the Most Great Name, and to establish the unity of all mankind. There is no place to flee to, no refuge that any one can seek, except Him."


(The World Order of Bahá'u'lláh, pp. 162 – 163)
 
Old 04-27-2018, 11:47 AM   #3
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Presumably not. The issue with "moving past war" is that it implies you are left completely open to any individual who hasn't "moved past war". It's conceivable that war will turn out to be less normal. Yet, it will dependably be an alternative.
 
Old 04-27-2018, 12:58 PM   #4
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All movements towards our Peace and Unity is great to see.

This passage pits a perspective we need to consider;


"CXX: O ye the elected representatives of the people…

O ye the elected representatives of the people in every land! Take ye counsel together, and let your concern be only for that which profiteth mankind, and bettereth the condition thereof, if ye be of them that scan heedfully. Regard the world as the human body which, though at its creation whole and perfect, hath been afflicted, through various causes, with grave disorders and maladies. Not for one day did it gain ease, nay its sickness waxed more severe, as it fell under the treatment of ignorant physicians, who gave full rein to their personal desires, and have erred grievously. And if, at one time, through the care of an able physician, a member of that body was healed, the rest remained afflicted as before. Thus informeth you the All-Knowing, the All-Wise.
We behold it, in this day, at the mercy of rulers so drunk with pride that they cannot discern clearly their own best advantage, much less recognize a Revelation so bewildering and challenging as this. And whenever any one of them hath striven to improve its condition, his motive hath been his own gain, whether confessedly so or not; and the unworthiness of this motive hath limited his power to heal or cure.
That which the Lord hath ordained as the sovereign remedy and mightiest instrument for the healing of all the world is the union of all its peoples in one universal Cause, one common Faith. This can in no wise be achieved except through the power of a skilled, an all-powerful and inspired Physician. This, verily, is the truth, and all else naught but error..."

It will be interesting to see what becomes of these goodwill gestures.

May all be well and happy Regards Tony.
 
Old 04-27-2018, 04:35 PM   #5
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Presumably not. The issue with "moving past war" is that it implies you are left completely open to any individual who hasn't "moved past war". It's conceivable that war will turn out to be less normal. Yet, it will dependably be an alternative.
Trinidad:

Thank you for your post. I can appreciate brevity, but for the benefit of myself and other readers I invite you to expand on what you have offered. Until then, I don’t disagree with what I think the point is you are making. That is likely why Baha’u’llah revealed and ‘Adu’l-Baha wrote the following about the necessity of a political or “Lesser Peace”.

“Such a peace demandeth that the Great Powers should resolve, for the sake of the tranquillity of the peoples of the earth, to be fully reconciled among themselves. Should any king take up arms against another, all should unitedly arise and prevent him. If this be done, the nations of the world will no longer require any armaments, except for the purpose of preserving the security of their realms and of maintaining internal order within their territories. This will ensure the peace and composure of every people, government and nation." (Gleanings from the Writings of Bahá'u'lláh, CXVII)

“True civilization will unfurl its banner in the midmost heart of the world whenever a certain number of its distinguished and high-minded sovereigns - the shining exemplars of devotion and determination - shall, for the good and happiness of all mankind, arise, with firm resolve and clear vision, to establish the Cause of Universal Peace. They must make the Cause of Peace the object of general consultation, and seek by every means in their power to establish a Union of the nations of the world. They must conclude a binding treaty and establish a covenant, the provisions of which shall be sound, inviolable and definite. They must proclaim it to all the world and obtain for it the sanction of all the human race. This supreme and noble undertaking - the real source of the peace and well-being of all the world - should be regarded as sacred by all that dwell on earth. All the forces of humanity must be mobilized to ensure the stability and permanence of this Most Great Covenant. In this all-embracing Pact the limits and frontiers of each and every nation should be clearly fixed, the principles underlying the relations of governments towards one another definitely laid down, and all international agreements and obligations ascertained. In like manner, the size of the armaments of every government should be strictly limited, for if the preparations for war and the military forces of any nation should be allowed to increase, they will arouse the suspicion of others. The fundamental principle underlying this solemn Pact should be so fixed that if any government later violate any one of its provisions, all the governments on earth should arise to reduce it to utter submission, nay the human race as a whole should resolve, with every power at its disposal, to destroy that government. Should this greatest of all remedies be applied to the sick body of the world, it will assuredly recover from its ills and will remain eternally safe and secure.” (`Abdu'l-Baha: Secret of Divine Civilization, p. 64-65)

Shoghi Effendi also wrote of a distant and emerging World Order and of it being “a system in which Force is made the servant of justice . . . “

-LR
 
Old 04-28-2018, 02:46 PM   #6
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I remember, a Bahá'í youth in the 1980s the great excitement of the Peace Message. For me, as a teenager, the dream of world Peace was not unique to Bahá'ís but the unfailing belief in the inevitability of World Peace was. There have been a few times when world events have caused me to wonder if the end to wars is a little closer and I admit to some disappointment that it has not been sooner. I have total confidence it will come. I don't think it is wrong to feel impatient. We want it now!

I found a quotation from the Universal House of Justice:

The grassroots effort of the Bahá'ís should prepare the ground for the transition from the present system of national sovereignty to a system of world government. This it can do by concentrating on wide and continual dissemination of the Peace Statement whose contents should be known by the generality of humanity, on engaging people from all walks of life in discussions on peace, and on instilling and encouraging a sense of personal commitment to the prerequisites of peace. In a word, what is needed now is a world-wide consciousness of not only the requirements but also the possibility, and inevitability, of peace. Therefore, our immediate and inescapable task as Bahá'ís is to imbue the populations with such hope.

(The Universal House of Justice, 1987 Jun 17, No Need to Agitate for Lesser Peace, p. 3)
 
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