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Old 06-13-2018, 11:19 AM   #81
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43. O SON OF BEING! Make mention of Me on My earth, that in My heaven I may remember thee, thus shall Mine eyes and thine be solaced.

In this instance I imagine it Baha'u'llah speaking to us and not God. It's a good idea to say Ya Baha'u'l-Abha at various times. Then we would often mention God and Baha'u'llah.
 
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Old 06-15-2018, 10:34 AM   #82
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44. O SON OF THE THRONE!
Thy hearing is My hearing, hear thou therewith. Thy sight is My sight, do thou see therewith, that in thine inmost soul thou mayest testify unto My exalted sanctity, and I within Myself may bear witness unto an exalted station for thee.
(Baha'u'llah, The Arabic Hidden Words)

This is just before the passages on martyrdom, and I think it is the right place. He asks us to give up our hearing for His hearing and our sight for His sight. This is a very exalted station that I know I will never achieve in this life. Eventually, though, I will go through all the worlds of God and progress towards God, so perhaps I will achieve that at some time.
 
Old 06-18-2018, 12:13 PM   #83
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Week 10
6/18/2018-6/24/2018
Núr 15/175-Rahmat 2/175

This week is the Arabic Verses, 45-50.
 
Old 06-20-2018, 09:16 AM   #84
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46. O SON OF MAN!
Ponder and reflect. Is it thy wish to die upon thy bed, or to shed thy life-blood on the dust, a martyr in My path, and so become the manifestation of My command and the revealer of My light in the highest paradise? Judge thou aright, O servant!
(Baha'u'llah, The Arabic Hidden Words)

Perhaps we can be living martyrs? By becoming a manifestion of His command and revealer of His light perhaps that is the same as becoming a martyr?

47. O SON OF MAN!
By My beauty! To tinge thy hair with thy blood is greater in My sight than the creation of the universe and the light of both worlds. Strive then to attain this, O servant!
(Baha'u'llah, The Arabic Hidden Words)

This is an amazing statement!
 
Old 06-21-2018, 06:59 AM   #85
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48. O SON OF MAN!
For everything there is a sign. The sign of love is fortitude under My decree and patience under My trials.
(Baha'u'llah, The Arabic Hidden Words)

49. O SON OF MAN!
The true lover yearneth for tribulation even as doth the rebel for forgiveness and the sinful for mercy.
(Baha'u'llah, The Arabic Hidden Words)

I think I can do the first but not the second one. I don't yearn for tribulation, but I can be patient.
 
Old 06-21-2018, 12:22 PM   #86
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............49. O SON OF MAN!
The true lover yearneth for tribulation even as doth the rebel for forgiveness and the sinful for mercy.
(Baha'u'llah, The Arabic Hidden Words)

.........................I don't yearn for tribulation, but I can be patient.
My thoughts are that the wisdom of this unfolds over time.

It can be said that we rarely make the required change without first suffering some form of tribulation. Our thoughts of what are right or wrong usually do not become focused until we note the injustices of this world. To note the injustices of this world, we may have to first live and suffer them so we can see them through other eyes.

We can observe those that suffer the most, willingly embrace that suffering so that we may see this world with different eyes.

Each of us may have observed that the tribulations we have been gifted to date, steered our lives to greater understandings. As such, we then begin to embrace each test that comes our way as a bounty gifted to enable us to embrace and make the necessary change.

If we subsequently fail to make that change, I think this is when the yearning for tribulation becomes more apparent.

I wish you always well and happy.

Regards Tony
 
Old 06-22-2018, 11:28 AM   #87
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Verse 46

Verse 47

Both these verses continue from 45 in the theme of martyrdom, which is in a sense the ultimate expression of detachment.

I take it to mean not to act in a suicidal matter, but to be prepared to give up everything and die at any moment. To attain such a state of detachment you would gladly give your life if necessary.

Or even, perhaps, to do the difficult task of dying while still drawing breath.

Verse 48

"For everything there is a sign." The part of me who studies and loves symbolism makes me grin when I read this.

Verse 49

"The true lover yearneth for tribulation even as doth the rebel for forgiveness and the sinful for mercy."

I think drives home the point that one should accept whatever position they are in and not mourn the changes and tribulations of existence.

It reminds me of

"The world has never had nor does it now possess stability, notwithstanding the complaints of some unfaithful and wavering souls." (Baha'u'llah)

and from the Taoist canon,

"When a skilled smith is casting metal, if the metal should leap up and say, 'I insist upon being made into a sword!' he would surely regard it as very inauspicious metal indeed. Now, having had the audacity to take on human form once, if I should say, 'I don't want to be anything but a man! Nothing but a man!', God would surely regard me as a most inauspicious sort of person." (Zhuangtzu) ((for context, the "I don't want to be anything but a man!" means "I don't want to die!"))

Verse 50

I've seen people say this means suffering is requisite for enlightenment.

Though with the other things I have just read, I have different ideas.

I view this as in response to those who would ask that they have no trials or no tribulations or no adversity. If God was to grant our every whim and alter the world to suit our desires, how could we hope to measure up to those who are content with the world as it is, and who don't ask for it to be changed??
 
Old 06-22-2018, 11:29 AM   #88
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I think I can do the first but not the second one. I don't yearn for tribulation, but I can be patient.
Well there's plenty of time (an infinity of it, even), and it's not necessarily an easy thing to attain. The Valley of Contentment comes after four other Valleys that must be first traversed,after all.
 
Old 06-23-2018, 09:07 AM   #89
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50. O SON OF MAN! If adversity befall thee not in My path, how canst thou walk in the ways of them that are content with My pleasure? If trials afflict thee not in thy longing to meet Me, how wilt thou attain the light in thy love for My beauty?

I don't know what the second sentence means. What does He mean by attaining the light? And how does trials affect that? Wouldn't we attain to the light without trials? I know these trials pertain to getting close to God. Oh, I partly get it, we need to become enlightened about being detached from all things in order to get close to God. We also need to become detached about how we see things, in order to have faith.

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