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Old 06-13-2018, 11:19 AM   #81
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43. O SON OF BEING! Make mention of Me on My earth, that in My heaven I may remember thee, thus shall Mine eyes and thine be solaced.

In this instance I imagine it Baha'u'llah speaking to us and not God. It's a good idea to say Ya Baha'u'l-Abha at various times. Then we would often mention God and Baha'u'llah.
 
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Old 06-15-2018, 10:34 AM   #82
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44. O SON OF THE THRONE!
Thy hearing is My hearing, hear thou therewith. Thy sight is My sight, do thou see therewith, that in thine inmost soul thou mayest testify unto My exalted sanctity, and I within Myself may bear witness unto an exalted station for thee.
(Baha'u'llah, The Arabic Hidden Words)

This is just before the passages on martyrdom, and I think it is the right place. He asks us to give up our hearing for His hearing and our sight for His sight. This is a very exalted station that I know I will never achieve in this life. Eventually, though, I will go through all the worlds of God and progress towards God, so perhaps I will achieve that at some time.
 
Old 06-18-2018, 12:13 PM   #83
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Week 10
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Núr 15/175-Rahmat 2/175

This week is the Arabic Verses, 45-50.
 
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46. O SON OF MAN!
Ponder and reflect. Is it thy wish to die upon thy bed, or to shed thy life-blood on the dust, a martyr in My path, and so become the manifestation of My command and the revealer of My light in the highest paradise? Judge thou aright, O servant!
(Baha'u'llah, The Arabic Hidden Words)

Perhaps we can be living martyrs? By becoming a manifestion of His command and revealer of His light perhaps that is the same as becoming a martyr?

47. O SON OF MAN!
By My beauty! To tinge thy hair with thy blood is greater in My sight than the creation of the universe and the light of both worlds. Strive then to attain this, O servant!
(Baha'u'llah, The Arabic Hidden Words)

This is an amazing statement!
 
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48. O SON OF MAN!
For everything there is a sign. The sign of love is fortitude under My decree and patience under My trials.
(Baha'u'llah, The Arabic Hidden Words)

49. O SON OF MAN!
The true lover yearneth for tribulation even as doth the rebel for forgiveness and the sinful for mercy.
(Baha'u'llah, The Arabic Hidden Words)

I think I can do the first but not the second one. I don't yearn for tribulation, but I can be patient.
 
Old 06-21-2018, 12:22 PM   #86
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............49. O SON OF MAN!
The true lover yearneth for tribulation even as doth the rebel for forgiveness and the sinful for mercy.
(Baha'u'llah, The Arabic Hidden Words)

.........................I don't yearn for tribulation, but I can be patient.
My thoughts are that the wisdom of this unfolds over time.

It can be said that we rarely make the required change without first suffering some form of tribulation. Our thoughts of what are right or wrong usually do not become focused until we note the injustices of this world. To note the injustices of this world, we may have to first live and suffer them so we can see them through other eyes.

We can observe those that suffer the most, willingly embrace that suffering so that we may see this world with different eyes.

Each of us may have observed that the tribulations we have been gifted to date, steered our lives to greater understandings. As such, we then begin to embrace each test that comes our way as a bounty gifted to enable us to embrace and make the necessary change.

If we subsequently fail to make that change, I think this is when the yearning for tribulation becomes more apparent.

I wish you always well and happy.

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Verse 46

Verse 47

Both these verses continue from 45 in the theme of martyrdom, which is in a sense the ultimate expression of detachment.

I take it to mean not to act in a suicidal matter, but to be prepared to give up everything and die at any moment. To attain such a state of detachment you would gladly give your life if necessary.

Or even, perhaps, to do the difficult task of dying while still drawing breath.

Verse 48

"For everything there is a sign." The part of me who studies and loves symbolism makes me grin when I read this.

Verse 49

"The true lover yearneth for tribulation even as doth the rebel for forgiveness and the sinful for mercy."

I think drives home the point that one should accept whatever position they are in and not mourn the changes and tribulations of existence.

It reminds me of

"The world has never had nor does it now possess stability, notwithstanding the complaints of some unfaithful and wavering souls." (Baha'u'llah)

and from the Taoist canon,

"When a skilled smith is casting metal, if the metal should leap up and say, 'I insist upon being made into a sword!' he would surely regard it as very inauspicious metal indeed. Now, having had the audacity to take on human form once, if I should say, 'I don't want to be anything but a man! Nothing but a man!', God would surely regard me as a most inauspicious sort of person." (Zhuangtzu) ((for context, the "I don't want to be anything but a man!" means "I don't want to die!"))

Verse 50

I've seen people say this means suffering is requisite for enlightenment.

Though with the other things I have just read, I have different ideas.

I view this as in response to those who would ask that they have no trials or no tribulations or no adversity. If God was to grant our every whim and alter the world to suit our desires, how could we hope to measure up to those who are content with the world as it is, and who don't ask for it to be changed??
 
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I think I can do the first but not the second one. I don't yearn for tribulation, but I can be patient.
Well there's plenty of time (an infinity of it, even), and it's not necessarily an easy thing to attain. The Valley of Contentment comes after four other Valleys that must be first traversed,after all.
 
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50. O SON OF MAN! If adversity befall thee not in My path, how canst thou walk in the ways of them that are content with My pleasure? If trials afflict thee not in thy longing to meet Me, how wilt thou attain the light in thy love for My beauty?

I don't know what the second sentence means. What does He mean by attaining the light? And how does trials affect that? Wouldn't we attain to the light without trials? I know these trials pertain to getting close to God. Oh, I partly get it, we need to become enlightened about being detached from all things in order to get close to God. We also need to become detached about how we see things, in order to have faith.

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51. O SON OF MAN!
My calamity is My providence, outwardly it is fire and vengeance, but inwardly it is light and mercy. Hasten thereunto that thou mayest become an eternal light and an immortal spirit. This is My command unto thee, do thou observe it.
(Baha'u'llah, The Arabic Hidden Words)

Suffering is a pathway to spiritual growth. By suffering we can be empathic about other people's suffering.

When He says hasten thereunto, that doesn't mean that we should create calamity for one's self. It means we should hasten inwardly.
 
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52. O SON OF MAN!
Should prosperity befall thee, rejoice not, and should abasement come upon thee, grieve not, for both shall pass away and be no more.
(Baha'u'llah, The Arabic Hidden Words)

We need to be detached about our surroundings, because it is all transient anyway. What is permanent is our relationship with God. This is related to Arabic Hidden Word 35.
 
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53. O SON OF BEING!
If poverty overtake thee, be not sad; for in time the Lord of wealth shall visit thee. Fear not abasement, for glory shall one day rest on thee.
(Baha'u'llah, The Arabic Hidden Words)

This is similar to the last Hidden Word, except here God makes a promise to bestow spiritual wealth and glory upon us. He also tells us to not to fear future abasement instead of just having us dwell on our current circumstances.
 
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Verse 51

We see in here a bit about how the same thing can look different from perspective, sort of reminds me of 'Abdu'l-Baha when he states

"Nevertheless a doubt occurs to the mind—that is, scorpions and serpents are poisonous. Are they good or evil, for they are existing beings? Yes, a scorpion is evil in relation to man; a serpent is evil in relation to man; but in relation to themselves they are not evil, for their poison is their weapon, and by their sting they defend themselves." (Some Answered Questions)

Verse 52

A call to contentment and not clinging to the impermanent, which is ever-changing.

This reminds me of this verse from the Taoist Canon: "Be content with this time and dwell in this order and then neither sorrow nor joy can touch you." (Zhuangtzu), which says pretty much the exact same thing.

Verse 53

Again a call to the Valley of Contentment.

Verse 54

Don't attach to the physical, for it is mortal, which changes.

Verse 55

"[For] with fire We test the gold, and with gold We test Our servants" is a fun line!

It reminds me a bit of my recent studies on the subject of alchemy, in which the pursuit of gold is only a metaphor for seeking God. One of my favorite lines from those studies being "He meant by that verse the gold of the sages... But the people imagined that it was is the gold which is in their hands. Therefore they ruined it with different kinds of operations, and they became tired and did not succeed." (Muhammad ibn Umail, Kitab Hall Ar-Rumuz) which speaks of the folly of seeking literal gold instead of seeking spiritual gold.

Verse 55 ties in nicely with Verse 56, but that'll have to wait until next week.

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54. O SON OF BEING! If thine heart be set upon this eternal, imperishable dominion, and this ancient, everlasting life, forsake this mortal and fleeting sovereignty.

We should not seek to advance ourselves over other people, but if it still falls into our hand we do not have to turn it down, but to use it to advance God's purposes.
 
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53. O SON OF BEING! If poverty overtake thee, be not sad; for in time the Lord of wealth shall visit thee. Fear not abasement, for glory shall one day rest on thee.

Yes, I believe it is talking about contentment, rest, peace. Because our contentment is in Baha'u'llah. I see so many people running the rat race of materialism where the value of a person is measured by what they have or don't have. It makes me sad thinking about it.



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Rahmat 10/175-Rahmat 16/175

This week is the Arabic Verses, 56-70.
 
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56. O SON OF MAN!
Thou dost wish for gold and I desire thy freedom from it. Thou thinkest thyself rich in its possession, and I recognize thy wealth in thy sanctity therefrom. By My life! This is My knowledge, and that is thy fancy; how can My way accord with thine?
(Baha'u'llah, The Arabic Hidden Words)

This is about detachment from material things. If we are detached from material things we will become rich spiritually.
 
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57. O SON OF MAN!
Bestow My wealth upon My poor, that in heaven thou mayest draw from stores of unfading splendor and treasures of imperishable glory. But by My life! To offer up thy soul is a more glorious thing couldst thou but see with Mine eye.
(Baha'u'llah, The Arabic Hidden Words)

In this case wealth does not just refer to material wealth but also to spiritual wealth. Poor does not just refer to being materially poor but also spiritually poor.
 
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58. O SON OF MAN!
The temple of being is My throne; cleanse it of all things, that there I may be established and there I may abide.
(Baha'u'llah, The Arabic Hidden Words)

God wants us to cleanse ourselves of all attachments and prejudices.
 
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58. O SON OF MAN!
The temple of being is My throne; cleanse it of all things, that there I may be established and there I may abide.
(Baha'u'llah, The Arabic Hidden Words)

God wants us to cleanse ourselves of all attachments and prejudices.
I would also see this as cleaning ourselves of all thoughts that are not of God.

Therein lays a great challenge for us all.

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59. O SON OF BEING!
Thy heart is My home; sanctify it for My descent. Thy spirit is My place of revelation; cleanse it for My manifestation.
(Baha'u'llah, The Arabic Hidden Words)

I understand cleansing, but I don't know what He means by sanctify. Sanctify is not a word that I relate to. The dictionary says holiness or saintliness. I don't know what holiness means in real terms. I guess I'm not holy at all.
 
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59. O SON OF BEING!
Thy heart is My home; sanctify it for My descent. Thy spirit is My place of revelation; cleanse it for My manifestation.
(Baha'u'llah, The Arabic Hidden Words)

I understand cleansing, but I don't know what He means by sanctify. Sanctify is not a word that I relate to. The dictionary says holiness or saintliness. I don't know what holiness means in real terms. I guess I'm not holy at all.
Abdul'baha lived the life as a perfect example of this. When we read stories of His life, we can begin to know what needs to he done to Sanctify our Hearts.

To live as a Baha'i, as Abdul'Baha did, is to live a holy or saintly life. We all try to be a Baha'i, Little by Little, day by day. God willing we may acheive this goal, even if it be but one attribute.

Paitence is the one, I am impatiently working on.

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Could "sanctify" mean living a more virtues life, more like Abdu'l-Baha who is the greatest example of this? In other words to manifest in our lives more of the virtues exhibited in Baha'u'llah, as best we can, in this life or age? That's kind of how I see 58 -59 of Hidden Words.

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To "sanctify" something is to purify it for ritualistic or spiritualistic purposes. So perhaps it serves as an elaboration to the type of "cleansing" the verse speaks of.
 
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Verse 56

I like how this verse seems to re-frame the way detachment is thought of.

So often detachment is thought of as restriction on freedom, that we must restrict our behaviors and we cannot do this-or-that.

Instead this verse re-frames the idea that detachment is about gaining freedom, and that our attachments are things that control and dictate our actions, and presents detachment not as a limit on our actions, but as a freedom from that which controls us.

Verse 57

After reading Duane's on this one, I have nothing to add, his comments on it are great as is.

Verse 58

Verse 59

These two make me think of the poet Attar's Conference of the Birds (the book on which the Seven Valleys is in part a commentary)

In the book a flock of birds go on a quest through the seven valleys to find a king, the Simurgh, a legendary bird.

In the end, all except forty birds die on the journey, and eventually in the seventh valley the forty birds learn that they are the Simurgh (which I am told is a Farsi pun, with "Simurgh" and "forty birds" sounding the same).

The meaning is that they undergo a spiritual transformation. All parts of the birds except for the part which is the "forty birds" (and thus the part that is the Simurgh) is stripped away only leaving the Simurgh.

Likewise the talk of sanctifying and cleansing I think means detaching from everything except that Light of God that has been placed within us and that we are told about from the early verses.

Verse 60

Huh... I have no idea what this means right now... I need to try to carefully parse the symbolism here.
 
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60. O SON OF MAN! Put thy hand into My bosom, that I may rise above thee, radiant and resplendent.

Putting our hand in His bosum means we should practice spiritual actions. Our spiritual actions will get us closer to God and God will indeed rise above us.
 
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To "sanctify" something is to purify it for ritualistic or spiritualistic purposes. So perhaps it serves as an elaboration to the type of "cleansing" the verse speaks of.
I like your explanation. I agree.
 
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From Walrus: "To "sanctify" something is to purify it for ritualistic or spiritualistic purposes. So perhaps it serves as an elaboration to the type of "cleansing" the verse speaks of."

Thanks Walrus this is a beautiful explanation of the meaning.

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Rahmat 17/175 (Martyrdom of the Bab)-Kalimát 4/175

This week is the Arabic Verses, 61-65.
 
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61. O SON OF MAN!
Ascend unto My heaven, that thou mayest obtain the joy of reunion, and from the chalice of imperishable glory quaff the peerless wine.
(Baha'u'llah, The Arabic Hidden Words)

Of course heaven here is closeness to God. The chalice of imperishable glory I interpret as the Writings.
 
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So would it be correct in stating that the more one meditates and reads the Writings the closer one gets to God?

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So would it be correct in stating that the more one meditates and reads the Writings the closer one gets to God?

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It helps, if our heart likewise reacts to what is written.

It must lead to motivation to live what is written.

“One hour’s reflection is preferable to seventy years of pious worship” must needs be observed, so that the secret of the wretched behaviour of the people might be discovered, those people who, despite the love and yearning for truth which they profess, curse the followers of Truth when once He hath been made manifest." Baha'u'llah

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63. O SON OF MAN!
The light hath shone on thee from the horizon of the sacred Mount and the spirit of enlightenment hath breathed in the Sinai of thy heart. Wherefore, free thyself from the veils of idle fancies and enter into My court, that thou mayest be fit for everlasting life and worthy to meet Me. Thus may death not come upon thee, neither weariness nor trouble.
(Baha'u'llah, The Arabic Hidden Words)

I assume the Mount to refer to the sermon on the Mount by Christ. Sinai refers to Moses. So He's talking about Manifestations of God in general and what they give to us. Being "worthy to meet Me" means being worthy to meet Baha'u'llah. What is an idle fancy? What is He talking about here? Is He talking about amusements or ideas we have which get in the way of recognizing Baha'u'llah? I assume when He talks about death He is talking about spiritual death. What does He mean by no weariness and trouble coming upon us, we will get weary sometimes and trouble will come to us?
 
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64. O SON OF MAN!
My eternity is My creation, I have created it for thee. Make it the garment of thy temple. My unity is My handiwork; I have wrought it for thee; clothe thyself therewith, that thou mayest be to all eternity the revelation of My everlasting being.
(Baha'u'llah, The Arabic Hidden Words)

This is one of the most mysterious of the Hidden Words. God created eternity, it is not part of His essense. God was not always a unity? That is astounding! In His innermost essense he is exalted above numbers.

We are to always look to the eternal and not transient things. We are to see the eternal among all things.

We are to be one with God and all created things.

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Verse 61

Another call to ascend.

Verse 62

This could be also taken (apart from its outward meaning) to be a call to the whole of humanity, the "Many a day hath passed over thee" referring to the many prophets that have come over the years, and the call of "Lift up thy head from slumber, for the Sun hath risen to the zenith, haply it may shine upon thee with the light of beauty." might then (at least at the time of writing) have been a call to recognize that the Sun is once more out and shining.

Verse 63

Earlier we are told to embrace death and suffering, now we are told of freedom from death and suffering with "Thus may death not come upon thee, neither weariness nor trouble."

Perhaps hints at the truth, the only freedom from those things things lies in embracing and accepting them.

Verse 64

I think this one speaks for itself and I have nothing really to say except to praise the beauty of the verse and metaphors.

Verse 65

That's an interesting line to contemplate. The "That which beseemeth Me..." sentence makes sense to me, as how can infinity be fully comprehended by a mortal??

But I'm not so sure about that last sentence, "Verily, I have preserved it...". Is the "it" referring to "My majesty" in the first sentence or "That which beseemeth Me..." in the second?? Or are both things the same??

So perhaps God's glory is something we can't understand, but is being preserved and saved for us regardless??
 
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I like what you say about Hidden Word 62. I never thought about it that way.

I share your puzzlement of 65. I will not consider it independently, your analysis will suffice.

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Week 13
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Kalimát 5/175 (Martyrdom of the Bab)-Kalimát 11/175

This week is the Arabic Verses, 66-71.

We've almost finished!!

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I suggest we make it Arabic 66-71 to round it off.
 
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I suggest we make it Arabic 66-71 to round it off.
Updated. For some reason I had thought the Arabic went to 74.
 
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