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Old 07-24-2012, 06:54 AM   #1
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Remembrance of God

The "Remembrance of God" is mentioned frequently in the Writings of the Bab. Who is He referring to? Is it Baha'u'llah?

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Old 07-24-2012, 07:37 AM   #2
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a quote where you arrived at this question would be appreciated.

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Old 07-24-2012, 07:52 AM   #3
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Remembrance of God

Well, I just found one place where it really looks like it is referring to Baha'u'llah.

Bahá'í Reference Library - Selections From the Writings of the Báb, Pages 41-42

O King of Islám! Aid thou, with the truth, after having aided the Book, Him Who is Our Most Great Remembrance, for God hath, in very truth, destined for thee, and for such as circle round thee, on the Day of Judgement, a responsible position in His Path. I swear by God, O Sháh! 42 If thou showest enmity unto Him Who is His Remembrance, God will, on the Day of Resurrection, condemn thee, before the kings, unto hell-fire, and thou shalt not, in very truth, find on that Day any helper except God, the Exalted. Purge thou, O Sháh, the Sacred Land [Ṭihrán] from such as have repudiated the Book, ere the day whereon the Remembrance of God cometh, terribly and of a sudden, with His potent Cause, by the leave of God, the Most High. God, verily, hath prescribed to thee to submit unto Him Who is His Remembrance, and unto His Cause, and to subdue, with the truth and by His leave, the countries, for in this world thou hast been mercifully invested with sovereignty, and wilt, in the next, dwell, nigh unto the Seat of Holiness, with the inmates of the Paradise of His good-pleasure…

Other references to the Remembrance of God:
Bahá'í Reference Library - Selections From the Writings of the Báb, Page 69

Bahá'í Reference Library - Selections From the Writings of the Báb, Pages 62-63

Bahá'í Reference Library - Selections From the Writings of the Báb, Pages 93-94

Bahá'í Reference Library - Selections From the Writings of the Báb, Pages 44-45

Bahá'í Reference Library - Selections From the Writings of the Báb, Page 46
 
Old 07-24-2012, 12:18 PM   #4
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Well, I just found one place where it really looks like it is referring to Baha'u'llah.

Bahá'í Reference Library - Selections From the Writings of the Báb, Pages 41-42

O King of Islám! Aid thou, with the truth, after having aided the Book, Him Who is Our Most Great Remembrance, for God hath, in very truth, destined for thee, and for such as circle round thee, on the Day of Judgement, a responsible position in His Path. I swear by God, O Sháh! 42 If thou showest enmity unto Him Who is His Remembrance, God will, on the Day of Resurrection, condemn thee, before the kings, unto hell-fire, and thou shalt not, in very truth, find on that Day any helper except God, the Exalted. Purge thou, O Sháh, the Sacred Land [Ṭihrán] from such as have repudiated the Book, ere the day whereon the Remembrance of God cometh, terribly and of a sudden, with His potent Cause, by the leave of God, the Most High. God, verily, hath prescribed to thee to submit unto Him Who is His Remembrance, and unto His Cause, and to subdue, with the truth and by His leave, the countries, for in this world thou hast been mercifully invested with sovereignty, and wilt, in the next, dwell, nigh unto the Seat of Holiness, with the inmates of the Paradise of His good-pleasure…

Other references to the Remembrance of God:
Bahá'í Reference Library - Selections From the Writings of the Báb, Page 69

Bahá'í Reference Library - Selections From the Writings of the Báb, Pages 62-63

Bahá'í Reference Library - Selections From the Writings of the Báb, Pages 93-94

Bahá'í Reference Library - Selections From the Writings of the Báb, Pages 44-45

Bahá'í Reference Library - Selections From the Writings of the Báb, Page 46
based on that quote, yes, i do believe he was referring to Baha'ullah.
 
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Here is what Moojan Momen wrote:


In Babi and Bahai usage ḏekr refers to both a person (see Lawson) and an activity (see Scholl). In such phrases as ḏekr Allāh al-aʿẓam (the mightiest remembrance of God or the remembrance of God the Mightiest) it refers to the manifestation, or prophet, of God (maẓhar-e elāhī). In the writings of the Bāb it is a reference to himself (Lawson). In the writings of Bahāʾ-Allāh it may refer either to himself or to the Bāb (1984, pp. 190, 194; 1967, p. 7).

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In the writings of the Bāb it is a reference to himself (Lawson).
i disagree, look at that quote by lonemedic.

"Purge thou, O Sháh, the Sacred Land [Ṭihrán] from such as have repudiated the Book, ere the day whereon the Remembrance of God cometh, "


how can he "reference himself" when he gives warning of "the day whereon the Remembrance of God cometh, " ?
 
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GOD, of a truth, revealed unto Me in the sacred house of the Ka‘bah, ‘Verily, I am God, no God is there but Me. I have singled Thee out for Myself and have chosen Thee as the Remembrance. Indeed, whosoever beareth allegiance unto Thee by walking in the way of the Báb, for him the recompense of the next world hath surely been prescribed…’ It is ordained in the Book that upon the realization of the Cause of the Remembrance, the Most Great Event will have come to pass according to the dispensation of Providence, and God, truly, is potent over all things.

Chapter LXXIX.

Selections From the Writings of the Báb

So maybe the reference can be to both the Bab and Baha'u'llah...
 
Old 07-25-2012, 12:20 PM   #8
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As Art stated earlier, "the Remembrance of God" can refer to the Bab or the creative Word of God. See Nader Saiedi's Gate of the Heart.
 
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Thank you all for sharing.
 
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O Ahmad! Forget not My bounties while I am absent. Remember My days during thy days, and My distress and banishment in this remote prison. And be thou so steadfast in My love that thy heart shall not waver, even if the swords of the enemies rain blows upon thee and all the heavens and the earth arise against thee.

(Compilations, Baha'i Prayers, p. 209)
 
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