The future king of Baha'i

Timothy248 · 10-10-2012, 02:03 AM

"How great the blessedness that awaiteth the king who will arise to aid My Cause in My kingdom, who will detach himself from all else but Me! Such a king is numbered with the companions of the Crimson Ark--the Ark which God hath prepared for the people of Bahá. All must glorify his name, must reverence his station, and aid him to unlock the cities with the keys of My Name, the omnipotent Protector of all that inhabit the visible and invisible kingdoms. Such a king is the very eye of mankind, the luminous ornament on the brow of creation, the fountainhead of blessings unto the whole world. Offer up, O people of Bahá, your substance, nay your very lives, for his assistance."
(Bahá'u'lláh, Kitáb-i-Aqdas , 1873)

When will this future king arise? I expect he will set in motion events that will lead to the great peace, which will certainly occur before the end of the 21st century.

Magi728 · 10-10-2012, 05:13 AM

Good Question Timothy.

I had posted on another topic. On The Seventh Angel. And I Also thought that it was refering to the Future. And not the Past.

Based on the way that it concludes that the Spiritual and Divine Kingdom * Will be Established *

This Passage to me, does not Appear to be speaking of Past events nor Speaking of Past Persons , But A Man Arriving in the Future. When The Spiritual and Divine Kingdom Will have already been Established. And the surface of the Earth wil be a sublime Paradise. and Wars disputes ect.. will have disappeared.

These Appear to be Future Events Arriving. To My Understanding.

Heres a Recap.

Revelation 10:7
But in the days of the voice of the seventh angel, when he shall begin to sound, the mystery of God should be finished, as he hath declared to his servants the prophets

The seventh angel is a man qualified with heavenly attributes, who will arise with heavenly qualities and character. Voices will be raised, so that the appearance of the Divine Manifestation will be proclaimed and diffused. In the day of the manifestation of the Lord of Hosts, and at the epoch of the divine cycle of the Omnipotent which is promised and mentioned in all the books and writings of the Prophets

-[ in that day of God, the Spiritual and Divine Kingdom
[ *will be established *] and the world will be renewed; a new spirit will be breathed into the body of creation; the season of the divine spring will come; the clouds of mercy will rain; the sun of reality will shine; the life-giving breeze will blow; [ the world of humanity will wear a new garment] the surface of the earth will be a sublime paradise; mankind will be educated;

[ wars, disputes, quarrels and malignity will disappear;] and truthfulness, righteousness, peace and the worship of God will appear; union, love and brotherhood will surround the world; and God will rule for evermore - meaning that the Spiritual and Everlasting Kingdom will be established. Such is the day of God. For all the days which have come and gone were the days of Abraham, Moses and Christ, or of the other Prophets; but this day is the day of God, for the Sun of Reality will arise in it with the utmost warmth and splendor.

(`Abdu'l-Baha: Some Answered Questions, pages 56-57)

Magi.......

Magi728 · 10-10-2012, 05:19 AM

I See Both the King and the Seventh Angel arise to * aid the cause * of Bahá'u'lláh's Kingdom. That is Arriving.

With Love,

Magi.......

Magi728 · 10-10-2012, 05:31 AM

Ponder the last part of the passage.

union, love and brotherhood will surround the world; and God will rule for evermore - meaning- that the Spiritual and Everlasting Kingdom * will be established. +

Timothy said.. [ I expect he will set in motion events that will lead to the great peace, which will certainly occur before the end of the 21st century. ]

I Agree.

With love,

Magi.......

Magi728 · 10-10-2012, 05:44 AM

The seventh angel is a man qualified with heavenly attributes, * who will arise *

Not, who Has Already Arisen.

Magi.......

aji · 10-10-2012, 06:41 AM

Yes - that is very possible, but we should also keep our minds open to the possibility that these are events which have already occured. In Some Answered Questions, Abdu'l-Baha often uses this future tense to help elaborate on prophesies from the Bible, as many are still waiting for them to occur. This is one example, although we know it has already occured:

Quote:

The Book of Isaiah announces that the Messiah will conquer the East and the West, and all nations of the world will come under His shadow, that His Kingdom will be established, that He will come from an unknown place, that the sinners will be judged, and that justice will prevail to such a degree that the wolf and the lamb, the leopard and the kid, the sucking child and the asp, shall all gather at one spring, and in one meadow, and one dwelling. The first coming was also under these conditions, though outwardly none of them came to pass. Therefore, the Jews rejected Christ, and, God forbid! called the Messiah masíkh, considered Him to be the destroyer of the edifice of God, regarded Him as the breaker of the Sabbath and the Law, and sentenced Him to death. Nevertheless, each one of these conditions had a signification that the Jews did not understand; therefore, they were debarred from perceiving the truth of Christ.
The second coming of Christ also will be in like manner: the signs and conditions which have been spoken of all have meanings, and are not to be taken literally. Among other things it is said that the stars will fall upon the earth. The stars are endless and innumerable, and modern mathematicians have established and proved scientifically that the globe of the sun is estimated to be about one million and a half times greater than the earth, and each of the fixed stars to be a thousand times larger than the sun. If these stars were to fall upon the surface of the earth, how could they find place there? It would be as though a thousand million of Himalaya mountains were to fall upon a grain of mustard seed. According to reason and science this thing is quite impossible. What is even more strange is that Christ said: “Perhaps I shall come when you are yet asleep, for the coming of the Son of man is like the coming of a thief.” Perhaps the thief will be in the house, and the owner will not know it.

There are those alive today who have already laid claim to the title of the Seventh Angel, and quote the Baha'i Writings as such.

Magi728 · 10-10-2012, 07:01 AM

Yes thats the Beauty of a Self Investigation of Truth.

With Love,

Magi.......

Essence of GOD · 10-10-2012, 07:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Magi728

The seventh angel is a man qualified with heavenly attributes, * who will arise *

Not, who Has Already Arisen.

Magi.......

forgive my ignorance, but isnt that quote from the bible?
a 2 thousand years old book?
or is it another book?

Magi728 · 10-10-2012, 08:05 AM

[ The seventh angel is a man qualified with heavenly attributes, who * will arise * ]

The Quote is from `Abdu'l-Baha: Some Answered Questions..

COMMENTARY ON THE ELEVENTH CHAPTER OF THE REVELATION OF ST. JOHN

Bahá'í Reference Library - Some Answered Questions, Pages 45-61

Page 56.

With Love,

Magi.......

Pollwr · 10-10-2012, 08:13 AM

This quotation about a king used to make me wonder when he would arise.

Now that I re-read it I am considering the possibility that it may be a statement about the station that a king who would arise to aid the Cause of Bahá'u'lláh. In other words - this wonderful station is available to a King. Thinking along those lines it could mean that there may have been or may be more than one King who fits the bill or there may not be any.

Also, wasn't the King of Samoa a Bahá'í?

Essence of GOD · 10-10-2012, 08:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Magi728

[ The seventh angel is a man qualified with heavenly attributes, who * will arise * ]

The Quote is from `Abdu'l-Baha: Some Answered Questions..

COMMENTARY ON THE ELEVENTH CHAPTER OF THE REVELATION OF ST. JOHN

Bahá'í Reference Library - Some Answered Questions, Pages 45-61

Page 56.

With Love,

Magi.......

i think Abdulbaha is explaining the quote from the bible, so the "will arise" part, could he have been talking in respect to the time of the quote?

Magi728 · 10-10-2012, 08:32 AM

Sure that is Possible, Just as it is possible that he was refering to a Time When [ the world of humanity will wear a new garment] the surface of the earth will be a sublime paradise.

Magi.......

Essence of GOD · 10-10-2012, 08:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Magi728

Sure that is Possible, Just as it is possible that he was refering to a Time When [ the world of humanity will wear a new garment] the surface of the earth will be a sublime paradise.

Magi.......

if that were to happen, then we would have no need for any 7th angles

Magi728 · 10-10-2012, 08:41 AM

If He was talking in respect to the time of the quote...I Would suggest...only if That Fits with the Rest of His Revelation.

That in that day of God, the Spiritual and Divine Kingdom
[ *will be established *]

[ the world of humanity will wear a new garment] the surface of the earth will be a sublime paradise ]

[ union, love and brotherhood will surround the world; and God will rule for evermore - meaning that the Spiritual and Everlasting Kingdom will be established]

Based on the Whole Quote....I See Him Speaking of Future Events Established.

With Love,

Magi.......

Magi728 · 10-10-2012, 08:53 AM

If We have no need for any 7th angles...

Well He Only Refers to One...Arriving....But if We Have no Need For The Seventh Angel.... Then why does Abdul Baha.... Give a Revelation of One..?

Who Arrives When .. union, love and brotherhood will surround the world; and God will rule for evermore - meaning that the Spiritual and Everlasting Kingdom * will be established * ]

I See These Events Are Clearly Awaiting Us in The Future....And The King...And The Voice of the Seventh Angel....Will Aid in Bringing in Bahaullah's Kingdom....

With Love,

Magi.......But I Do Give Respect...to Your Witness As Well

Essence of GOD · 10-10-2012, 08:54 AM

and when exactly would that be?

Yeshua · 10-10-2012, 08:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pollwr

This quotation about a king used to make me wonder when he would arise.

Now that I re-read it I am considering the possibility that it may be a statement about the station that a king who would arise to aid the Cause of Bahá'u'lláh. In other words - this wonderful station is available to a King. Thinking along those lines it could mean that there may have been or may be more than one King who fits the bill or there may not be any.

Also, wasn't the King of Samoa a Bahá'í?

Dear brother/sister Pollwr

Good day to you!

As far as I can tell the Guardian (Shoghi Effendi) believed that this prophecy pinpointed or rather alluded towards a specific individual rather than a more general statement of what station kings could attain too:

Quote:

In the Kitáb-i-Aqdas He sets forth His purpose, and eulogizes the king who will profess His Faith...In the Lawh-i-Ra’ís He actually and categorically prophesies the rise of such a king...In the Kitáb-i-Aqdas He visualizes in these words the elevation to the throne of His native city, "the Mother of the World" and "the Dayspring of Light," of a king who will be adorned with the twin ornaments of justice and of devotion to His Faith: "Let nothing grieve thee, O Land of &Ta, for God hath chosen thee to be the source of the joy of all mankind. He shall, if it be His will, bless thy throne with one who will rule with justice, who will gather together the flock of God which the wolves have scattered. Such a ruler will, with joy and gladness, turn his face towards and extend his favors unto, the people of Bahá. He indeed is accounted in the sight of God as a jewel among men. Upon him rest forever the glory of God, and the glory of all that dwell in the kingdom of His Revelation."

(The Promised Day is Come, Shoghi Effendi)

There is also a more general prophecy from Baha'u'llah about "kings" that will likewise reign justly. However this unique personage who will "arise to aid my cause in my kingdom" seems to me at least to signify a single person, who is also alluded to in the prophecy concering Tehran above.

It might interest you to know, and I've mentioned it before, that Catholic mystics have also prophesised the coming of a Great Monarch who will create new laws for a new mankind and cause a New Age to begin, in which the entire world will be united in political union. We believe that he will transform the world in temporal matters, whilst he will be assisted by a Holy Pope given the title in the prophecies of the "Angelic Shepherd" who will transform the world spiritually.

Quote:

Venerable Bartholomew Holzhauser (17th century)

"...A great change will come to pass, such as no mortal man will have expected...the Hand of Almighty God will work a marvellous change, something apparently impossible according to human understanding. There will rise a valiant monarch anointed by God. He will be a Catholic, a descendant of Louis IX, yet a descendant of an ancient imperial German family, born in exile...He will rule supreme in temporal matters. The Pope will rule supreme in spiritual matters at the same time. Persecution will cease and justice shall rule. Religion seems to be suppressed, but by the changes of entire kingdoms it will be made more firm….He will root out false doctrines and destroy the rule of Moslemism [Islamic extremism]. His dominion will extend from the East to the West...a new mankind will come into existence. God possesses the key to everything. Blessed is he who will then be able to praise him, having obeyed all his commandments. And the great monarch of the world will create new laws for the new mankind and will cause a new age to begin, in which there will be only one flock and one shepherd, and peace will be of long, long duration, for the glory of God in heaven and on earth...Men will live in peace and this will be granted because people will make their peace with God. They will be reconciled with the one God. They will live in the shadow of the powerful Monarch and of his successors; under the protection of the Great Monarch and his successors...The Sixth Age of the Spirit commences with the powerful Monarch and the Holy Pontiff...This will be an age of consolation in which God will console His Spirit of the affliction and the great tribulation of the preceding age. All the nations will be united...The sacerdocy will flower more than ever, and men will seek the kingdom of God in all solicitude... Many saints and doctors will flourish in the earth. Men will love reason and justice. Peace will reign in all the universe, because the divine power will bind Satan for many years, until the son of perdition will rave anew...It is in that age that the relation of the sixth Spirit of the Lord will be known, that is to say the Spirit of Wisdom that God diffuses over all the surfaces of the globes in those times. For men will fear the Lord their God, they will observe the law and serve it with all their heart. The sciences will be multiplied and complete on the earth. The Holy Scriptures will be unanimously understood, without controversy and without the errors of heresies. Men will be enlightened, so much as in the natural sciences and in the celestial sciences. Finally, the Sixth Church, the Church of Philadelphia, is the type of this sixth age, for Philadelphia signifies friendship of brothers, and again guarding the heritage in union with the Lord. Now all these characters convene perfectly in the sixth age, in which they will have love, concord and perfect peace and in which the powerful Monarch will have to consider almost the entire world as his heritage. He will deliver up the earth, with the aid of the Lord his God from all his enemies, of ruin and of all evil...For likewise, in this epoch, the people of Israel will be consoled to a very high degree by the Lord, our God, who will deliver them from the captivity of Babylon. The kingdoms, the nations, and the people will submit to the Roman Empire [new world government], furiously vanquished by the very powerful and very illustrious monarch who will govern during fifty-six years, rendering the peace of the universe...Thus, in the Sixth Age, God will delight his Church with the greatest prosperity...this monarch will reign in the orient and in the occident. All the nations will come and adore the Lord their God...for all nations will be brought to the unity....."

The year when Easter Sunday falls on St. Mark's Feast (April 25) and Pentecost falls on St. Anthony feast (June 13) and Corpus Christi falls on St. John the Baptist (June 24) is only one year in the 21st century, which is the year 2038. Many Catholic prophets suggest that a war will end around this date and the "new age" will commence. It could indicate another century with this conjuction but if it is to happen in ours then it would have to be 2038.

Interesting in view of this prophecy:

Quote:

“...In the latter days there shall be great wars and bloodshed. The fury of wars shall last a long time. Whole provinces shall be left naked and uninhabited, many cities forsaken of people, the nobility slaughtered, principal persons ruined, great changes of kings, commonwealths and rulers.

Germany and Spain will unite under a great prince designated by God. After much slaughtering, the other nations will be forced to come into this union. There is no hope for the unbelievers until all Germany becomes converted; then all will happen quickly. Because of Germany's unfaithfulness, the time will be prolonged until all countries unite under the Great Ruler. After this union mass conversions will take place by the command of God, and peace and prosperity will follow...”

- Blessed Amadeus of Portugal, O.F.M., (1420–1482), prophet & Franciscan mystic

Undoubtedly I think this refers to the EU as a predecessor to a closer form of union (ie federation). I mean, Germany and Spain are currently united together through the EU. Perhaps the Great Monarch will be a man elected as President of a Federal Europe, which will then one day lead to world federalism which is what the popes from Pius XII on have called for:

Quote:

"...The origin of European integration after World War II was characterized by an active role of political leaders whose Christian faith and engagement were generally known. Konrad Adenauer, Alcide de Gasperi, and Robert Schumann thought their task of uniting Europe to be in accordance with the social and political doctrines of the Catholic Church. They were encouraged by Pope Pius XII, a convinced European and world federalist..."

- Ferdinand Kinsky, 1998

So he might be a President rather than Monarch, although an "Imperial Federation" could be possible, if many peoples' opinion of constitutional monarchy changed. This could still work with republics on a global scale, since Imperial Germany from the 1870s until 1918 was a federal monarchy which had republican states within it. If it worked nationally it could work internationally perhaps.

Essence of GOD · 10-10-2012, 08:58 AM

dooood yeshua, where have you been man??????
missed your long posts

Magi728 · 10-10-2012, 09:00 AM

But it does Appear to me, that The King that Tim Refered to Will Appear...And Aid The Kingdom and the Seventh Angel Will Establish it...

With Love,

Magi.......

Magi728 · 10-10-2012, 09:02 AM

[ So he might be a President rather than Monarch]

Yes I Agree...Great Point.

Magi.......

Yeshua · 10-10-2012, 09:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Essence of GOD

dooood yeshua, where have you been man??????
missed your long posts

I have missed you too brother Essence

I have been incredibly busy at university and so have had little time to devote myself to writing on forums, certainly not like I did last year and before.

However I have no exams in November (all next semester), so you will probably see a lot more of me after my hectic schedule this week.

Magi728 · 10-10-2012, 10:08 AM

[ and when exactly would that be? ]

I See your Friend Yeshua Gave a Great Responce to your Question of A Possible, When.

Great Responce Yeshua.

For the Even More That is Arriving ..

And a Great Topic Tim. It is a Very Activating Topic. I See.

For Activation Progresses the Mind From Stagnation.

With Love,

Magi.......

Emilia · 10-10-2012, 11:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yeshua

It might interest you to know, and I've mentioned it before, that Catholic mystics have also prophesised the coming of a Great Monarch who will create new laws for a new mankind and cause a New Age to begin, in which the entire world will be united in political union. We believe that he will transform the world in temporal matters, whilst he will be assisted by a Holy Pope given the title in the prophecies of the "Angelic Shepherd" who will transform the world spiritually.

The year when Easter Sunday falls on St. Mark's Feast (April 25) and Pentecost falls on St. Anthony feast (June 13) and Corpus Christi falls on St. John the Baptist (June 24) is only one year in the 21st century, which is the year 2038. Many Catholic prophets suggest that a war will end around this date and the "new age" will commence. It could indicate another century with this conjuction but if it is to happen in ours then it would have to be 2038.

Most interesting. Does anyone try to link this to St. Malachy's prophecy?

If there's anything to St. Malachy of Armagh's list of popes, there's only one left in the list after Pope Benedict.

Quote:

Undoubtedly I think this refers to the EU as a predecessor to a closer form of union (ie federation). I mean, Germany and Spain are currently united together through the EU. Perhaps the Great Monarch will be a man elected as President of a Federal Europe, which will then one day lead to world federalism which is what the popes from Pius XII on have called for:

Well, it sure seems at the moment like economic necessity may well force the nations using the EU nations who are part of the Euro to enact reforms that make the union closer.

BruceDLimber · 10-11-2012, 01:53 PM

As has already been pointed out, this prophecy was already fuilfilled, at least in part!:

Malieatoa, the King of Samoa, was a Baha'i.

Peace, :-)

Bruce

10-10-2012, 02:03 AM	#1
Timothy248 Senior Member Joined: Sep 2012 From: New Zealand Posts: 100	The future king of Baha'i "How great the blessedness that awaiteth the king who will arise to aid My Cause in My kingdom, who will detach himself from all else but Me! Such a king is numbered with the companions of the Crimson Ark--the Ark which God hath prepared for the people of Bahá. All must glorify his name, must reverence his station, and aid him to unlock the cities with the keys of My Name, the omnipotent Protector of all that inhabit the visible and invisible kingdoms. Such a king is the very eye of mankind, the luminous ornament on the brow of creation, the fountainhead of blessings unto the whole world. Offer up, O people of Bahá, your substance, nay your very lives, for his assistance." (Bahá'u'lláh, Kitáb-i-Aqdas , 1873) When will this future king arise? I expect he will set in motion events that will lead to the great peace, which will certainly occur before the end of the 21st century.

10-10-2012, 05:44 AM	#5
Magi728 Senior Member Joined: Oct 2012 From: Clarksburg WV Posts: 101	Ponder.. What `Abdu'l-Baha States. The seventh angel is a man qualified with heavenly attributes, * who will arise * Not, who Has Already Arisen. Magi.......

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10-10-2012, 05:13 AM	#2
Magi728 Senior Member Joined: Oct 2012 From: Clarksburg WV Posts: 101	Good Question Timothy. I had posted on another topic. On The Seventh Angel. And I Also thought that it was refering to the Future. And not the Past. Based on the way that it concludes that the Spiritual and Divine Kingdom * Will be Established * This Passage to me, does not Appear to be speaking of Past events nor Speaking of Past Persons , But A Man Arriving in the Future. When The Spiritual and Divine Kingdom Will have already been Established. And the surface of the Earth wil be a sublime Paradise. and Wars disputes ect.. will have disappeared. These Appear to be Future Events Arriving. To My Understanding. Heres a Recap. Revelation 10:7 But in the days of the voice of the seventh angel, when he shall begin to sound, the mystery of God should be finished, as he hath declared to his servants the prophets The seventh angel is a man qualified with heavenly attributes, who will arise with heavenly qualities and character. Voices will be raised, so that the appearance of the Divine Manifestation will be proclaimed and diffused. In the day of the manifestation of the Lord of Hosts, and at the epoch of the divine cycle of the Omnipotent which is promised and mentioned in all the books and writings of the Prophets -[ in that day of God, the Spiritual and Divine Kingdom [ will be established ] and the world will be renewed; a new spirit will be breathed into the body of creation; the season of the divine spring will come; the clouds of mercy will rain; the sun of reality will shine; the life-giving breeze will blow; [ the world of humanity will wear a new garment] the surface of the earth will be a sublime paradise; mankind will be educated; [ wars, disputes, quarrels and malignity will disappear;] and truthfulness, righteousness, peace and the worship of God will appear; union, love and brotherhood will surround the world; and God will rule for evermore - meaning that the Spiritual and Everlasting Kingdom will be established. Such is the day of God. For all the days which have come and gone were the days of Abraham, Moses and Christ, or of the other Prophets; but this day is the day of God, for the Sun of Reality will arise in it with the utmost warmth and splendor. (`Abdu'l-Baha: Some Answered Questions, pages 56-57) Magi.......

10-10-2012, 05:19 AM	#3
Magi728 Senior Member Joined: Oct 2012 From: Clarksburg WV Posts: 101	I See Both the King and the Seventh Angel arise to * aid the cause * of Bahá'u'lláh's Kingdom. That is Arriving. With Love, Magi.......

10-10-2012, 05:31 AM	#4
Magi728 Senior Member Joined: Oct 2012 From: Clarksburg WV Posts: 101	Ponder the last part of the passage. union, love and brotherhood will surround the world; and God will rule for evermore - meaning- that the Spiritual and Everlasting Kingdom * will be established. + Timothy said.. [ I expect he will set in motion events that will lead to the great peace, which will certainly occur before the end of the 21st century. ] I Agree. With love, *Magi.......*

10-10-2012, 07:01 AM	#7
Magi728 Senior Member Joined: Oct 2012 From: Clarksburg WV Posts: 101	Yes thats the Beauty of a Self Investigation of Truth. With Love, Magi.......

10-10-2012, 08:05 AM	#9
Magi728 Senior Member Joined: Oct 2012 From: Clarksburg WV Posts: 101	[ The seventh angel is a man qualified with heavenly attributes, who * will arise * ] The Quote is from `Abdu'l-Baha: Some Answered Questions.. COMMENTARY ON THE ELEVENTH CHAPTER OF THE REVELATION OF ST. JOHN Bahá'í Reference Library - Some Answered Questions, Pages 45-61 Page 56. With Love, Magi.......

10-10-2012, 08:13 AM	#10
Pollwr Senior Member Joined: Jun 2009 From: earth Posts: 379	This quotation about a king used to make me wonder when he would arise. Now that I re-read it I am considering the possibility that it may be a statement about the station that a king who would arise to aid the Cause of Bahá'u'lláh. In other words - this wonderful station is available to a King. Thinking along those lines it could mean that there may have been or may be more than one King who fits the bill or there may not be any. Also, wasn't the King of Samoa a Bahá'í?

10-10-2012, 08:32 AM	#12
Magi728 Senior Member Joined: Oct 2012 From: Clarksburg WV Posts: 101	Sure that is Possible, Just as it is possible that he was refering to a Time When [ the world of humanity will wear a new garment] the surface of the earth will be a sublime paradise. Magi.......

10-10-2012, 08:41 AM	#14
Magi728 Senior Member Joined: Oct 2012 From: Clarksburg WV Posts: 101	If He was talking in respect to the time of the quote...I Would suggest...only if That Fits with the Rest of His Revelation. That in that day of God, the Spiritual and Divine Kingdom [ will be established ] [ the world of humanity will wear a new garment] the surface of the earth will be a sublime paradise ] [ union, love and brotherhood will surround the world; and God will rule for evermore - meaning that the Spiritual and Everlasting Kingdom will be established] Based on the Whole Quote....I See Him Speaking of Future Events Established. With Love, Magi.......

10-10-2012, 08:53 AM	#15
Magi728 Senior Member Joined: Oct 2012 From: Clarksburg WV Posts: 101	If We have no need for any 7th angles... Well He Only Refers to One...Arriving....But if We Have no Need For The Seventh Angel.... Then why does Abdul Baha.... Give a Revelation of One..? Who Arrives When .. union, love and brotherhood will surround the world; and God will rule for evermore - meaning that the Spiritual and Everlasting Kingdom * will be established * ] I See These Events Are Clearly Awaiting Us in The Future....And The King...And The Voice of the Seventh Angel....Will Aid in Bringing in Bahaullah's Kingdom.... With Love, Magi.......But I Do Give Respect...to Your Witness As Well

10-10-2012, 08:54 AM	#16
Essence of GOD Senior Member Joined: Nov 2010 From: EARTH Posts: 334	and when exactly would that be?

10-10-2012, 08:58 AM	#18
Essence of GOD Senior Member Joined: Nov 2010 From: EARTH Posts: 334	dooood yeshua, where have you been man?????? missed your long posts

10-10-2012, 09:02 AM	#20
Magi728 Senior Member Joined: Oct 2012 From: Clarksburg WV Posts: 101	[ So he might be a President rather than Monarch] Yes I Agree...Great Point. Magi.......

10-10-2012, 10:08 AM	#22
Magi728 Senior Member Joined: Oct 2012 From: Clarksburg WV Posts: 101	[ and when exactly would that be? ] I See your Friend Yeshua Gave a Great Responce to your Question of A Possible, When. Great Responce Yeshua. For the Even More That is Arriving .. And a Great Topic Tim. It is a Very Activating Topic. I See. For Activation Progresses the Mind From Stagnation. With Love, Magi.......

10-11-2012, 01:53 PM	#24
BruceDLimber Senior Member Joined: Mar 2010 From: Rockville, MD, USA Posts: 1,122	As has already been pointed out, this prophecy was already fuilfilled, at least in part!: Malieatoa, the King of Samoa, was a Baha'i. Peace, :-) Bruce