Originally Posted by arthra

Baha'is do believe miracles are possible but cannot be regarded as proofs as they are most significant to those who are directly affected and after that it is hear-say.. We tend to interpret the NT spiritually/symbolically rather than literally.

Mary Magdalene has a special place or station for us more so than with say many Christians..

'Abdu'l-Bahá turned with a look of great joy and said with an impressive gesture: "The bounty and power of God is limitless for each human soul. Consider what was the quickening power of the Christ when He was on earth. Look at His disciples! They were poor and uncultured men. Out of the rough fisherman He made the great Peter, and out of the poor village girl of Magdala He made one who is a power in all the world today. Many queens have reigned who are remembered by their dates in history, and nothing more is known of them. But Mary the Magdalene is greater than them all. It was she whose love strengthened the disciples when their faith was failing. What she did for the world cannot be measured. See what a divine power was enkindled in her by the power of God!"

(Abdu'l-Baha, Abdu'l-Baha in London, p. 88)

There were some miracles attributed to the Bab and Baha'u'llah but again these are not considered proofs and are not say a requirement to believe.

What Baha'is believe I would suggest is that there are Manifestations of God and we include Gautama Buddha, that have appeared down through the ages and that have raised the consciousness of humanity to new plateaus of civilization.

Originally Posted by Orthodox

I reject bahu'a'llahs explanation. But no, the desciples would not have taken the body away for one very good reason. There was no need for them to do so. The Messiah they had put their hopes into had died and they fled, Peter watched a distance and saw his master die. They were disheartened, felt betrayed they were in no mood to steal a body away.

That being said. Bahu'a'llah is wrong. The clergy have always understood what the ressurection was. The gospels have been clear as to what the ressurection was. Luke has Christ eat food, a spirit does not eat food. Mathew has the desciples touch his feet. Jesus asks the desciples of touch him in John and Mark tells us the tomb was empty. These are not the markings of symbolizm but a very real ressurection. But that being said your prophet commits a naturalistic philosophy assuming all that exists in natural therefore nothing can contradict the natural world. Sorry to break it to him but GOd is a supernatural being and he can break the laws of nature he established for his own purposes. Theres nothing wrong with this, its just what God can do.

So please don't take offence at my harsh nature against this guy you bahai quote. I am offended he tells me the clergy CHRIST INSTITUTED were wrong. the Arrogance.

Originally Posted by Orthodox

I reject bahu'a'llahs explanation. But no, the desciples would not have taken the body away for one very good reason. There was no need for them to do so. The Messiah they had put their hopes into had died and they fled, Peter watched a distance and saw his master die. They were disheartened, felt betrayed they were in no mood to steal a body away.

That being said. Bahu'a'llah is wrong. The clergy have always understood what the ressurection was. The gospels have been clear as to what the ressurection was. Luke has Christ eat food, a spirit does not eat food. Mathew has the desciples touch his feet. Jesus asks the desciples of touch him in John and Mark tells us the tomb was empty. These are not the markings of symbolizm but a very real ressurection. But that being said your prophet commits a naturalistic philosophy assuming all that exists in natural therefore nothing can contradict the natural world. Sorry to break it to him but GOd is a supernatural being and he can break the laws of nature he established for his own purposes. Theres nothing wrong with this, its just what God can do.

So please don't take offence at my harsh nature against this guy you bahai quote. I am offended he tells me the clergy CHRIST INSTITUTED were wrong. the Arrogance.