Baha'i Mystical teachings

daniel

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Mar 2006
174
Seattle, WA
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Feb 2013
3
Philippines
#2
I'm love the Mystical side of the Faith and am noticing that I am developing a stronger understanding of it. When I first read The Seven Valley's, I was lost and couldn't understand what it was all about. After having a real in depth conversations with my Baha'i friends about technology, science and string theory, I read the Seven Valley's again with an expanded mind and was able to put more context in the message, thus a better understanding.... it blew my mind. Every morning I would randomly read a passage from the Hidden Words and it would have a direct application to what was going on in my life that day. Dreams are also important to take note. I've noticed that when I set my intent before I go to bed (recite the night prayers) my dreams are more lucid and I'm able to retain more the next day.... It gives me more things to reflect about.. I encourage more Baha'i to practice this. It strengthens my Faith knowing that there are mysterious things that are happening, and that God only allows people to see them when they are ready. Allah'u'abha
 
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Sep 2010
1,758
Louisiana
#3
Mystical is not mysterious

My understanding is all Baha'is can be/are mystics b/c we can have a personal relationship with God which is what mysticism means to me. It is not mysterious and to me is often confused as such.
 
Feb 2013
3
Philippines
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Hello Cire,

Everyone has their own personal relationship with God... that's a given. I'm relatively new to this site and new to the Faith as well, and what I've learned from this Faith is to approach things with humility. Maybe in your own spiritual journey you have made the conclusion that the Mystical side is not mysterious ... but for others who remain open about the meanings of the Teachings, please be mindful of your comments "it is in no wise permissible to belittle the thought of another."
 
Jan 2013
3
the edge of the world
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From experience I would tend to go with the idea that mysticism itself is the source of all religions. As the prophets achieve their information from altered states derived from prayer/meditation and or other methods. Sometimes being on the edge of an Idea or thought is enough for the individual to be given a nudge from other realms. Onec one has experienced the other realms through concious choice or not their perception of certain truths is forever altered.

Now if they have the adequate language/intellect/frame of refference to describe their experience or message is annother thing alltogether.
 
Feb 2013
3
Philippines
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That is precisely it.... everyone's path to God is different and sometimes hard to articulate into words without a frame of reference and context. The universe is vastly complex and way beyond the understanding of our human capacities... Mysticism is the source of religion.... It's about figuring out the deeper questions about our existence... the role we play in it... and how to use this insight for the benefit of mankind.

Ever since I became Baha'i... there are too many serendipitous things that have happened to me that cannot be categorized as mere coincidence. It totally feels like a nudge from another realm.
 
Jan 2013
3
the edge of the world
#7
That is precisely it.... everyone's path to God is different and sometimes hard to articulate into words without a frame of reference and context. The universe is vastly complex and way beyond the understanding of our human capacities... Mysticism is the source of religion.... It's about figuring out the deeper questions about our existence... the role we play in it... and how to use this insight for the benefit of mankind.

Ever since I became Baha'i... there are too many serendipitous things that have happened to me that cannot be categorized as mere coincidence. It totally feels like a nudge from another realm.
The word I think you may be looking for on that is synchronicity.....
As the Baha’i faith has no obvious clergy or initiation process to speak of the path is left up to the individual to ask the right questions of :
"The Self Subsisting"

Subsisting present participle of sub•sist (Verb)
1. Maintain or support oneself, esp. at a minimal level.
2. Remain in being, force, or effect.

Mystics would refer to this as being "the higher self"
In Buddhism it’s referred to as the inner Buddha Nature

If you take into account the concept of unity it perhaps is not in reference to physically coming together as one people but rather a spiritual awakening to the realization that we in the waking world see ourselves as split off from the source while in this plain of existence. After our experience is done and we have learned what we needed to on all the levels of existence we re-merge with the eternal sea of consciousness and the light from which we emerge.

"We are drops of one sea"

Learning to realize and appreciate that nothing is truly separate comes with the starting point that spirit is not really the same thing as soul. The spirit or the animus is the driving force and the soul is the sum of the experience learned.

Especially when you look at photonic entanglement and DNA. DNA has been show to be an emitter and receiver of photonic energy which is light in its highest form.
In the mystery schools of antiquity the spirit was spoken of as being the “light body”

Now look to the possible source.

If you look to the heavens by this I mean outer space.
The mystic would disagree with the theory of the big bang because that is not what is evident by the movement of the constellations and galaxies.

In an explosion everything radiates out from a central point away from the source. The galaxies do not follow this pattern, they move in different directions entirely and some even appear to be moving through each other.

But there is something that they share.
At the centre of every galaxy is a supermassive black hole. A supermassive black hole is the largest type of black hole in a galaxy, on the order of hundreds of thousands to billions of solar masses. Most—and possibly all—galaxies, including the Milky Way are believed to contain supermassive black holes at their centers.

Now the formation of a galaxy starts with the forming of a rift in space time and through that comes all the energy that is to become matter that later forms the starts and planets and even our physical bodies gradually this energy begins to take form with the rotation of the galactic arms. This could be referred to as “the fall” or the descent of spirit into matter. Slowly the galactic centre then begins to feed on itself until it reaches a state of equilibrium and then is puts out bands of photonic energy in the form of a cross or the swastika


The swastika is an equilateral cross with four arms bent at 90 degrees. The earliest archaeological evidence of swastika-shaped ornaments dates back to the Indus Valley Civilization, Ancient India as well as Classical Antiquity. Swastikas have also been used in various other ancient civilizations around the world. It remains widely used in Indian religions, specifically in Hinduism, Buddhism, and Jainism, primarily as a tantric symbol to evoke shakti or the sacred symbol of auspiciousness. The word "swastika" comes from the Sanskrit svastika - "su" meaning "good" or "auspicious," "asti" meaning "to be," and "ka" as a suffix. The swastika literally means "to be good". Or another translation can be made: "swa" is "higher self", "asti" meaning "being", and "ka" as a suffix, so the translation can be interpreted as "being with higher self".

The western mystic schools would reffer to this as the “Cosmic Christ” not to be confused with Jesus Christ the religious title of Yeshua Ben Pantera

Certain societies have also named this “the four corners” of galactic precession.

Now as I mentioned earlier DNA has been show to be an emitter and receiver of photonic energy. The potential for their to be an effect on human consciousness as earth passes into one of those bands will be apparent in future generations of mankind.

Now as At the centre of every galaxy is a supermassive black hole (that emits all energy spirit and matter and the photonic bands that effect DNA). The source of the black hole sits outside all space time it is therefore a possibility that it is the same black hole at the center of every galaxy. Now whatever sits at that point surely is “The Source” from which all flows that subsists creation.

OK let’s just say I was given a NUDGE at some point……
 
Sep 2010
1,758
Louisiana
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mysterious is not unreachable

Bayhero you made a clear point. I don't like the word mysterious being confused with mystical. To me that makes road blocks for people and their personal relationship with God. Mysticism as a relationship with God is a given or a divine right in this day and age. Mysticism does not require living in a cave or on a mountain top. Prayer, living the life, and reflective meditation especially with the Holy Writings we have is all that is needed. It may have mysterious ways indeed, but the mystery does not make mysticism exclusive. I hope I clarified my take which is actually simple, I think....?........I think the "ordinary" Baha'i is a mystic in this day.
 
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Jan 2013
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the edge of the world
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cire perdue "I don't like the word mysterious being confused with mystical. To me that makes road blocks for people and their personal relationship with God."

If their were no roadblocks to or challenges to overcome then there would be no spiritual growth through tests of adversity and then what would be the point of FAITH? ;)

There is no confusion Mystiscism is derrived from studying the mystries of life and ones relation and place in the universe and one who studies them a mystic.:yes:
 
Feb 2017
1
Lewisville,Texas
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problem with website

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