Some of them might be true, but Baha’u’llah is still telling us to disregard them:See how flawed your approach is. You are equating tales and traditions with divine revelations. If tales and traditions are conflicting with each other, it does not mean all of them are false. It just means, they can confuse people.
“Please God thou wilt turn thine eyes towards the Most Great Revelation, and entirely disregard these conflicting tales and traditions.”
I did not say that equated to all religions. Baha’u’llah was not referring to Islamic traditions. The context of the passage shows what he was referring to:Bahaullah is referring to certain traditions of bygones ages and past generations. How does that equate to all religions? He could have been referring to Islamic traditions. In any case the Hindu prophets I mentioned came after Bahaullah. So try as you might, you cannot possibly apply Bahaullah's words to them.
“Mention hath been made in certain books of a deluge which caused all that existed on earth, historical records as well as other things, to be destroyed. Moreover, many cataclysms have occurred which have effaced the traces of many events. Furthermore, among existing historical records differences are to be found, and each of the various peoples of the world hath its own account of the age of the earth and of its history. Some trace their history as far back as eight thousand years, others as far as twelve thousand years. To any one that hath read the book of Jük it is clear and evident how much the accounts given by the various books have differed.”
I sure can apply Baha’u’llah’s words to any anyone who claims to a Revelation direct from God if He came after Baha’u’llah wrote the following:
“Whoso layeth claim to a Revelation direct from God, ere the expiration of a full thousand years, such a man is assuredly a lying impostor. We pray God that He may graciously assist him to retract and repudiate such claim. Should he repent, God will, no doubt, forgive him. If, however, he persisteth in his error, God will, assuredly, send down one who will deal mercilessly with him. Terrible, indeed, is God in punishing! Whosoever interpreteth this verse otherwise than its obvious meaning is deprived of the Spirit of God and of His mercy which encompasseth all created things. Fear God, and follow not your idle fancies. Nay, rather follow the bidding of your Lord, the Almighty, the All-Wise.” Gleanings From the Writings of Bahá’u’lláh, p. 346
I do not have to investigate ALL the older revelations from God to know the truth about the Revelation of Baha’u’llah.Now you sound like a fanatical Muslim. The proper way to come to a conclusion is to investigate through study and analysis and if possible practice before coming to conclusions.
Shoghi Effendi did not appoint another Guardian because there was no suitable candidate before he died and he died suddenly, before he could appoint a Guardian.You are just parroting the ignorance of Shogi Effendi. Shogi Effendi shouldn't be commenting on other religions without studying them. How did he become an expert on all the religions while failing to appoint the next Gaurdian for the Bahai faith as willed by Abdul Baha. Wasn't that part of his job to take care of the needs of the Bahai faith first. Where does Bahaullah teach people like Shogi Effendi to abrogate and trash all the religions of the world? Shogi Effendi is going off a tangent and doing his own thing.
Shoghi Effendi is not doing his own thing since nothing he wrote contradicts what Baha’u’llah wrote. To say that the previous revelations have been abrogated is essentially what Baha’u’llah said. That is not trashing the older religions.
No, the contradictions are because if the flawed interpretations of the adherents to the older religions. That is why Jews and Christians do not understand that Baha’u’llah has fulfilled the Bible prophecies. That is whyThe contradictions are mostly because of your flawed interpretation. If you meditate and intuitively perceive the esoteric truths in all religions, they are all equally good.
You are correct that the spiritual truths of all the religions are equally true, but humanity does not NEED those older religions anymore because we have a NEW religion, and as long as people cling to their older religions they will never recognize Baha’u’llah. This is logic 101 stuff and it can be verified by talking to the clingers who say that do not need that “new religion.”
Meanwhile, the world situation continues to go downhill……
“The One true God beareth Me witness, and His creatures will testify, that not for a moment did I allow Myself to be hidden from the eyes of men, nor did I consent to shield My person from their injury. Before the face of all men I have arisen, and bidden them fulfil My pleasure. My object is none other than the betterment of the world and the tranquillity of its peoples. The well-being of mankind, its peace and security, are unattainable unless and until its unity is firmly established. This unity can never be achieved so long as the counsels which the Pen of the Most High hath revealed are suffered to pass unheeded.” Gleanings From the Writings of Bahá’u’lláh, p. 286
The Dispensations were abrogated, the religions were not abrogated:That only shows more of your ignorance. Jesus did not abrogate Judaism which is still alive and vibrant. Mohammed did not abrograte Christianity and Judaism. Buddha did not abrogate Hinduism. You just sound like a fanatical Muslim. By your own flawed logic, the Bahai faith stands abrograted because there have been manifestations of God in India after the death of Bahaullah.
“Let no one, however, mistake my purpose. The Revelation, of which Bahá’u’lláh is the source and center, abrogates none of the religions that have preceded it, nor does it attempt, in the slightest degree, to distort their features or to belittle their value. It disclaims any intention of dwarfing any of the Prophets of the past, or of whittling down the eternal verity of their teachings. It can, in no wise, conflict with the spirit that animates their claims, nor does it seek to undermine the basis of any man’s allegiance to their cause. Its declared, its primary purpose is to enable every adherent of these Faiths to obtain a fuller understanding of the religion with which he stands identified, and to acquire a clearer apprehension of its purpose. It is neither eclectic in the presentation of its truths, nor arrogant in the affirmation of its claims. Its teachings revolve around the fundamental principle that religious truth is not absolute but relative, that Divine Revelation is progressive, not final. Unequivocally and without the least reservation it proclaims all established religions to be divine in origin, identical in their aims, complementary in their functions, continuous in their purpose, indispensable in their value to mankind.” The World Order of Bahá’u’lláh, pp, 57-58
There have been no Manifestations of God in India since the death of Baha’u’llah.
But Muslims do not have the original writings of Muhammad since Muhammad could not write. Moreover, what they do have has been altered to suit their purposes.Muslims also claim they have the original teachings of Mohammed and according to his last message there will be no new prophets. So according to Islamic teachings, Bahaullah is not a prophet and Bahai faith is not a true religion. You are subjecting other religions to the same religious fanaticism that Muslims have subjected the Bahai faith to. You are no different from a fundamentalist Muslim.
I never said I had scientific evidence. NO religion has any scientific evidence to prove it is true. Nobody can prove that anyone was a Manifestation of God. That has to be taken on faith. But there is evidence that indicates that Baha’u’llah was telling the truth about His claim. Whether it is evidence for everyone is another matter altogether.What scientific evidence can you offer that God revealed any spiritual truths to Bahaullah? How can you scientifically prove that Bahaullah was a manifestation of God?
I never said it proved that his teachings came from God or that He was a Prophet of God. Nobody can prove that except to themselves.None of that proves that his teachings came from God. None of that proves that he was a prophet of God.
Evidence is not the same as proof:
Evidence: the available body of facts or information indicating whether a belief or proposition is true or valid: https://www.google.com/search
Proof: evidence or argument establishing or helping to establish a fact or the truth of a statement: https://www.google.com/search
Well, the Bahai faith has also been distorted by it's followers. As of today there are atleast 12 different Bahai groups claiming to represent the real teachings of Bahaullah. That does not sound too good for a religion which is hardly 200 years old.
No, there is only ONE Baha’i Faith. The others are Covenant-breaker groups that claim to be Baha’is.
So now you are going to get down and dirty by using the history of the Baha’i Faith, since you don’t have anything else. Been there, done that.Abdul Baha had to expel his own brother that was appointed by Bahaullah as the second in command of the faith. The second and third wives of Bahaullah and eventually all the male members of his family were also expelled. And Shogi Effendi talks about one race, one nation, one religion and universal brotherhood and you parrot his ignorance. Really? A religion that expelled the family members of its founder and got divided in at least 12 religious groups aims to promote universal brotherhood and one religion. Shouldn't brotherhood and unity of religion begin at home?
You speak from total ignorance because you do not know why the family members were expelled and you do not know why those groups broke away.
Why not just call it a day and forget you ever heard of Baha’u’llah? It is obvious what you are trying to do, you want to make the Baha’i Faith in your own image, but it is what it is, and you cannot change that just because you do not LIKE some things that don’t suit your ideas of what a religion should be.
“Therefore, I say unto you, spread the Divine Truth with all your might that men’s intelligence may become enlightened; this is the best answer to those who slander. I do not wish to speak of those people nor to say anything ill of them—only to tell you that slander is of no importance!
Clouds may veil the sun, but, be they never so dense, his rays will penetrate! Nothing can prevent the radiance of the sun descending to warm and vivify the Divine Garden.
Nothing can prevent the fall of the rain from Heaven.
Nothing can prevent the fulfilment of the Word of God!
Therefore when you see books and papers written against the Revelation, be not distressed, but take comfort in the assurance that the cause will thereby gain strength.
No one casts stones at a tree without fruit. No one tries to extinguish a lamp without light! ………….
And I say unto you that no calumny is able to prevail against the Light of God; it can only result in causing it to be more universally recognized. If a cause were of no significance, who would take the trouble to work against it!
But always the greater the cause the more do enemies arise in larger and larger numbers to attempt its overthrow! The brighter the light the darker the shadow! Our part it is to act in accordance with the teaching of Bahá’u’lláh in humility and firm steadfastness.” Paris Talks, pp. 104-106