Possession by presumed evil

Feb 2019
251
Chicago
Hello Everyone,

Bit of a strange question i guess. But i have experience of people being possessed
By dark (absorbs light) criminal (bad intentions) energetic presences and saying
And doing negative things.

I ask the possessed people if they remember saying such things to me like
"I will batter your desire to do good out of you" and the claim to remember
The conversation right up to the moment i perceive them as possessed.

Now i have tried to be logical turning to psychology ideas, perhaps people
Have different parts of their personality that they aren't aware of usually.
But i don't really get psychology either to be honest.

I feel really bad about the situation because i feel like i should take action
With regards to these possessing telepathic beings, but striving to be
A good person and the Bahai suggestion not to pursue psychic phenomena...

What should i be doing? And how should i understand what iam seeing?
Obviously if people could point me towards scripture and the books
They are in so i can investigate the truth this would be very appreciated.appreciate

Obviously a lot of people will just think I'm crazy i guess, but that does not
Actually help me to understand the spirit world. I see a lot of information
Online about Angels, evil spirits, entities, spiritual warfare. . . Etc.

Although it has been incredible to bear witness to this reality, i haven't
Actually intentionally tried to pursue this, as it is not suggested by the faith.
But when i started praying to God this aspect of life just opened up
Accidentally??? Or is it just a side effect of pursuing a relationship
With God? Am i supposed to live on earth with no awareness of
Such things?

Also i wondered if what we do within the spirit world has any bearing
On planet earth, because in pursuing recovery from being upset about
Certain matters, i don't know if spirits were listening to what i was
Thinking and some kind of spiritual warfare took place? Do you think
God would allow me to process my hurt feelings in private on my own?
I'm a bit worried that i might have accidentally done magic etc.
If i had accidentally engaged in some kind of spiritual warfare do
You think God forgives this?

To be clear i have never purposefully done magic like candles and
Rituals etc, i just believed that you were supposed to process
Your reactions to evil by being aware of your thoughts and feelings
And letting them go, so that you can return to peace. But...
I obviously had unseen company, I'm worried that i might have
Retaliated.... But the spirit world doesn't actually listen to my
Private rant and go off and retaliate??? Does it?

The Baha'i scripture talks of the Concourse on High forming ranks
To protect you and wiping out evil on your behalf? So... It's ok
And part of Good eradicating the darkness?

To be honest with you i make a lot of effort to meet bad with good,
But i probably still need to process my reactions in private on
Occasion, still being susceptible to feeling hurt and occasionally
Angry when treated badly. Perhaps I'm not supposed to be nice
To bad? I see a lot of people reacting with immediate anger
To protect themselves from bad treatment. But i just don't
Want to be human I want to be of Good character of God and
Respond to it with Grace. Are Baha'is at risk of being a doormat?
I literally have one year old babies calling me stupid for letting
Them win a simple card game :/ even babies think I'm stupid
For my niceness!?

So what should i do about people possessed by external telepathic
Evil? I wasn't quite sure what the guardian meant when he said
Possessing evil spirits don't exist, but evil and dark forces can yield
To temptation???

So people ARE being possessed by evil.... ?

Is that external to the person? ??

Are they consenting to being possessed by external evil or are they victims?
What should i do to protect them?

If we are talking about their lower nature(satan) why deny memory of
Doing things? Obviously a lot of people lie when they are bad, but i do
Trust some people who say they have no memory of saying things
Doing things. So if it is their lower nature do i hold them accountable
Regardless? How do you do this if they can't remember their deeds?
What approach do other Baha'is take?

Sorry guys I'm a slow learner! I probably should have known all these
Answers a long time ago.

Any scripture and help greatly appreciated.

Please try to keep the crazy comments to a minimum!
There is a soul inside every human body which is a creation of the human mind. The soul uses the human body to work out its desires and mental tendencies stored in the human mind. But sometimes, people commit suicide or die for other reasons without having their strong desires fulfilled. People who commit suicide do not die peacefully and such souls often have strong negative tendencies stored up in their minds and they seek another physical body to work out their desires. If they find a person with an unspiritual and weak mind, they try to take possession of that person's body with the result that the weak mind is overpowered by mind of the soul who may have committed suicide. People who do not understand this phenomenon believe that a demon has possessed the person.

Here is an account of Jesus casting away these tramp souls called demons.

Matthew 8:28-34 says, "When he arrived at the other side in the region of the Gadarenes, two demon-possessed men coming from the tombs met him. They were so violent that no one could pass that way. 'What do you want with us, Son of God?' they shouted. 'Have you come here to torture us before the appointed time?' Some distance from them a large herd of pigs was feeding. The demons begged Jesus, 'If you drive us out, send us into the herd of pigs.' He said to them, 'Go!' So they came out and went into the pigs, and the whole herd rushed down the steep bank into the lake and died in the water. Those tending the pigs ran off, went into the town and reported all this, including what had happened to the demon-possessed men. Then the whole town went out to meet Jesus. And when they saw him, they pleaded with him to leave their region."

The best way to keep your mind strong and healthy is to meditate upon God everyday and grow spiritually. When you manifest spiritual qualities, their inherent strength will protect you because such qualities keep away souls with negative tendencies. As you can see from the incident from the life of Jesus, when the tramp souls saw him coming, they knew his spiritual qualities and strength will torture them and they preferred to leave the human bodies and enter the bodies of pigs.


It is also true that sometimes, we imagine stuff and project it on to other people. People are also prone to all kinds of hallucinations.
 
Nov 2019
12
Wales, UK
Hello @Independent Investigation



Please note that the following may not 100% compatible with the Bahai View about dark spirits,
But it is in no way my intention to speak against it.

It is just my personal view, based not only of deep studying the issue of dark spirits, but also of some experiences.

...

Yes, external dark spirits exists
(however one may name them... daemons, evil spirit, unclean spirits, jinns, spirit of mara, dark forces, black entities, etc...)

and those spirits are able to influence, even possessing people. (through "open doors" in their soul)


Based on what you have wrote about the person you referer...

it could be quite possible, that he is possessed by such external dark spirits.

Because the behavior you shortly described would be very typical.


So, if it's the case of dark spirits, classical psychology and medicine would not be enough the deal with it.
(because in most cases they deny the existence of dark spirits)

Then you, respectively the person... need an (real) expert in this area who can help.

Please note that... if... you must carefully look for an real expert.

His heart must be pure and attached to God.... he must be a real healer.
You must follow your inner sense to choose wisely.

He would then be able to diagnose the case... and explaining what can be done.

Normally the way is: Firstly, removing the dark spirits. That the person is free of them.

And after that (very important) to help the person closing his open doors through which the dark spirits came in.

From here on, classical psychology could be then very helpful... because that is then an pure inner psychological work.


If not closing the open doors... the dark spirits could come in anytime again.

The person your referrer must also be willing for it. If not, helping he would difficult even impossible.


Maybe you can find something in this... for you and/or the person you referer.

i wish you and the person all the Best.


Thank you for this, it is what i believed to be going on. I do feel inclined
To trust my perception and understanding of the experience.

Can i ask you, when my parents seemed to be possessed by external beings
Of bad intent.....
I gave away my weakness, a fear of rapists and immediately the evil spirit tried to send
Me insane by having my dad look like the dark energetic presence of a rapist.
Started singing a song about "fly me to the moon" which i thought was symbolic
Of psychosis, to mock me with his victory of successfully getting a dissociated
part of my mind to come up into consciousness and that part perceived the
Situation as the human being a rapist, whilst i could clearly see it was a
Possession by external evil being trying to screw up my family relationships
And drive me insane for the fun of torturing me and take down someone
Doing Godswill.

Of course it gets complicated when you deny evil spirits and possession.
Because then it is my dad being evil or my fear of rapists made me
Hallucinate.

I have a bahai friend telling me that humans can be telepathic, and denies
Evil spirit possession. Thus my parents could telepathically hear my thoughts
And decided to wind me up by telling me ii talk to ghosts for no reason.
That i can sense their presence (i thought two spirits have entered my
Parents)

My mother was physically sick i started cleaning the house with bleach
Prayers and various things like water air garlic candles.
I assumed mum would be pleased as she likes a clean house and for
M e to clean when she is sick.
Instead she looked possessed by an evil spirit and said
"You have defeated me"

My partner a good man, went to punch me and stopped saying
"See God didn't protect you then" on another occasion i wanted
To help a cat saying i still desire to do good and he responded
With her would batter that desire out of me, and asked me to join
The evil team, saying if I'm crap at attacking that i could be bait.

My partner can't remember doing and saying these things

So either he has a dissociated part that what? Wants me
To go on an evil mission wi th him????
My partner just works and looks after his daughter and
Sees his mate, he doesn't do evil things for me to help him
Out.


Anyway I'm fed up of the confusion the evil spirit was capable
Of causing because no one validates this reality to life.
Like how would you make sense of it in terms of the true reality????

A tonne of bs theories that's how.

I will try to find a genuine person who can help with this situation.
Can i ask if you know any? Obviously i would not be willing
To pay con artist amount s for protection as I could probably
Do it myself with Jesus

But id be willing to pay £50 an hour for a genuine session of
What? Prayer? To see if it did anything.

That's what i pay therapists

It is what i can afford

Frankly I'm not going to spend big money on this seeing as these
Evil spirits can't harm me. But i would prefer them to fuc k off.

What do you think of the stuff i explained further? Sound more
Like evil spirits or some other factor?
 
Nov 2019
12
Wales, UK
There is a soul inside every human body which is a creation of the human mind. The soul uses the human body to work out its desires and mental tendencies stored in the human mind. But sometimes, people commit suicide or die for other reasons without having their strong desires fulfilled. People who commit suicide do not die peacefully and such souls often have strong negative tendencies stored up in their minds and they seek another physical body to work out their desires. If they find a person with an unspiritual and weak mind, they try to take possession of that person's body with the result that the weak mind is overpowered by mind of the soul who may have committed suicide. People who do not understand this phenomenon believe that a demon has possessed the person.

Here is an account of Jesus casting away these tramp souls called demons.

Matthew 8:28-34 says, "When he arrived at the other side in the region of the Gadarenes, two demon-possessed men coming from the tombs met him. They were so violent that no one could pass that way. 'What do you want with us, Son of God?' they shouted. 'Have you come here to torture us before the appointed time?' Some distance from them a large herd of pigs was feeding. The demons begged Jesus, 'If you drive us out, send us into the herd of pigs.' He said to them, 'Go!' So they came out and went into the pigs, and the whole herd rushed down the steep bank into the lake and died in the water. Those tending the pigs ran off, went into the town and reported all this, including what had happened to the demon-possessed men. Then the whole town went out to meet Jesus. And when they saw him, they pleaded with him to leave their region."

The best way to keep your mind strong and healthy is to meditate upon God everyday and grow spiritually. When you manifest spiritual qualities, their inherent strength will protect you because such qualities keep away souls with negative tendencies. As you can see from the incident from the life of Jesus, when the tramp souls saw him coming, they knew his spiritual qualities and strength will torture them and they preferred to leave the human bodies and enter the bodies of pigs.


It is also true that sometimes, we imagine stuff and project it on to other people. People are also prone to all kinds of hallucinations.
Oh wow this is really interesting, for my parents have never shared any belief in
Ghosts or spirits nor talked about anything but earthly stuff.
Then when i started to perceive things on a presumed psychic level
My mum came up to me and said i talk to ghosts.

Also a healer said that i needed an exorcism as a ghost was attached to me.
Bizarrely this just involved God Jesus and a conversation of it saying it
Was studying me to learn more about a certain dynamic, and she said to
Go off playing elsewhere in the universe and probably not to return to
Earth.

Seemed a bit harsh for a human to be told to float off into what space???
Is space different if your dead?

Anyway, i was surprised that exorcism just involved a conversation
To go away

But then Jesus would just say go away conversational like

And then obviously

I know this sounds really bad but i wanted to see what evil spirits
Could do to a person. I also wanted to be completely helpless
And not defend myself to see if they could kill me

And apparently no ability to kill me even if i don't defend myself

I have heard though that they prefer to just send you insane
Which i think they did for a period of time

But i just found being insane really interesting, having studied
Mindfulness. Just observing the ever changing flow of
My experience

And as i informed the evil spirit at the time, i did recover from
Being insane as i said i would

Then made it a symbol of God's love

To the moon and back

Anyway

Loads of other stuff i would love to ask you both.

I have had a lot of stuff happen in my home, seems friendly
Enough for my tastes

They even turned the fire alarm on for ten seconds to alert
Me to the fact my pet was dying so i could try to comfort him.

not much going on at the moment, could we talk more?

Haven't met many people who experience these things
 
Feb 2019
251
Chicago
Oh wow this is really interesting, for my parents have never shared any belief in
Ghosts or spirits nor talked about anything but earthly stuff.
Then when i started to perceive things on a presumed psychic level
My mum came up to me and said i talk to ghosts.

Also a healer said that i needed an exorcism as a ghost was attached to me.
Bizarrely this just involved God Jesus and a conversation of it saying it
Was studying me to learn more about a certain dynamic, and she said to
Go off playing elsewhere in the universe and probably not to return to
Earth.

Seemed a bit harsh for a human to be told to float off into what space???
Is space different if your dead?

Anyway, i was surprised that exorcism just involved a conversation
To go away

But then Jesus would just say go away conversational like

And then obviously

I know this sounds really bad but i wanted to see what evil spirits
Could do to a person. I also wanted to be completely helpless
And not defend myself to see if they could kill me

And apparently no ability to kill me even if i don't defend myself

I have heard though that they prefer to just send you insane
Which i think they did for a period of time

But i just found being insane really interesting, having studied
Mindfulness. Just observing the ever changing flow of
My experience

And as i informed the evil spirit at the time, i did recover from
Being insane as i said i would

Then made it a symbol of God's love

To the moon and back

Anyway

Loads of other stuff i would love to ask you both.

I have had a lot of stuff happen in my home, seems friendly
Enough for my tastes

They even turned the fire alarm on for ten seconds to alert
Me to the fact my pet was dying so i could try to comfort him.

not much going on at the moment, could we talk more?

Haven't met many people who experience these things
I wish you well and will pray for you. You seemed to be troubled. I am not convinced you are in a normal state of mind. Your communication is incoherent.
 
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Nov 2019
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I wish you well and will pray for you. You seemed to be troubled. I am not convinced you are in a normal state of mind. Your communication is incoherent.
Wow... Ok... I guess it is 3am here and i could have explained it better.
Thanks for the concern, iam actually perfectly fine though, sorry that
My ideas worry you
 

ams

Nov 2019
88
Thailand
Ohh yes @Independent Investigation ... this sounds very serious.

Try to hold your mind as clear as possible. Search quickly for an expert on this issue where you live or arround your living place. Also chanting the holiest in your Faith would give quick help. But search for an expert. Imho: Real help via internet or Forums is not possible... only some advices. :fold:
 
Nov 2019
12
Wales, UK
Ohh yes @Independent Investigation ... this sounds very serious.

Try to hold your mind as clear as possible. Search quickly for an expert on this issue where you live or arround your living place. Also chanting the holiest in your Faith would give quick help. But search for an expert. Imho: Real help via internet or Forums is not possible... only some advices. :fold:
Mmm... I'm worried that the people i know won't accept they are being possessed
And will refuse to ask God and the Heavenly beings of Light and Love to sort it out.

I just asked my partner if he'd be willing to do the process described above
If only for my peace of mind and he says no. He also says he can't remember
Doing bad things.

I'll be honest, i don't want to marry him if he has some dissociated evil
Part that is only behaving because i could easily walk away at the moment.
At the same time i don't want an evil spirit messing up my relationship...

I'm pretty sure good beings need permission to help though, so.
I guess I'll just have to not marry if he refuses to get treatment..
 
Jun 2014
1,100
Wisconsin
Wow... So your saying the humans i see behaving badly as real as real, are all good
People. And I'm the bad person some how imagining them behaving badly?
Well, no, first what I present as a possibility is only a possibility. I don't have all the details necessarily to rule conclusively.

Three questions to ask yourself would be:

How many people have you seen under possession??

Do they all say/do similar things when under possession??

Has anyone else heard or seen them say or do these things??

If the answers are "many", "yes", and "no", these answers would lean towards the possibility that you are the common factor in these events, rather than the others. These answers would lean towards you being the possessed, which is both bad (in that you are possessed) but good (in that freeing yourself from a possession is far easier than freeing someone else).

And I'm the bad person some how imagining them behaving badly?
And no. The whole point of combating demons is recognizing that these parts of our self are not our true selves and thus denying them. You are not a bad person, this demon or darker part is not your true self. And that's why we fight the Inner Jihad.

You say the Faith believes in magic, i was of the understanding that magic involves talking to spirits and trying to get them to do your bidding. If that were correct
Then people being possessed by external evil spirits would be possible.

Please explain what the Faith uses in terms of magic
"Magic" is an overly-broad term. If we are talking about what the faith forbids, then this is "psychic powers" and contextually appear to be referring to scrying or future prediction.

If the magic you are talking about is "talking to spirits and trying to get them to do your bidding", then the Baha'i Faith believes in this type of magic. After all, we recognize the Prophet King Solomon, and his most notable power (in Jewish, Christian, and Muslim traditions alike) was his ability to command and control djinns or demons.

And, again, the Bab has provided us with talismans to ward off evil. Solomon provided similar talismans to ward or command evil spirits.

This doesn't necessarily mean the evil spirits are external, but they can still be internal. Things that dwell in the human psyche.

Of note, demons being an internal phenomenon does not mean they do not exist or are imaginary, though I know some can come to that impression after reading 'Abdu'l-Baha's writing on the subject. I'd say that rather these things are real, but primarily come from within rather than from outside.

But regardless of whether it is internal or external, the important thing to note is that a human is more powerful than an evil spirit. A spirit does not grow more powerful through evil, rather it gets weaker, so a human soul is mightier than a demon, which is why countless different scriptures from around the world all report that a human has power over demons.

Anyway, i was surprised that exorcism just involved a conversation
To go away
That's how both Jesus Christ and Gautama Buddha did it. Seems to be a tried-and-true method.
 
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As you mention, the Baha'i Faith expresses that demons are symbols of mankind's lower nature. The Jungian school of psychology has a similar view, referring to that part of the person as the shadow self. In both systems, possession is thus understood as psychological, at least in part. It thus might be of benefit to seek advice from a psychologist.



There might be a number of explanations for which someone would deny memory of saying such a thing. They might remember, but be ashamed of their words, and thus lie to deny that. They might also remember, but are lying to themselves. They might genuinely not remember, either from simply forgetting, or from them not being lucid in the moment they were saying them.

But there might be another thing to consider. It is unlikely that a large number of people are either lying or can't remember, and you seem to indicate that you've seen similar possession incidents in more than one person. This would lead me to ask two things, the first being how many people have you seen with such an experience, and second, more importantly, do they all say similar things to you??

If there is a large number of people each saying similar things when under this sort of possession, and each deny memory of the event afterward, then it may be likely that the explanation may be that they say they have no memory of the event because they genuinely have no memory of the event because they never actually spoke those words. It may be that you are the one who is, in your terms, possessed. And the things you are hearing may not be things that other people are saying to you, but rather are the things that your own lower nature or shadow self is saying to you, presenting those statements to you through your perception of others.

From what you say about your own struggle with doing the right thing in other scenarios, as well as your mention of thinking that you might have experienced spiritual warfare, this would lend credence to the idea that what you are experience is localized to yourself, rather than the people around you.

If this is the case, you may want to seek council from a psychologist who might be able to gain more insight into the nature of your possession.

Again, if this is the case, I'd also advise to paying attention to what the possessive force is saying to you. From the one example you have provided, "I will batter your desire to do good out of you", this seems to me like your shadow self trying to turn you away from being righteous. This is similar to Jesus who was confronted by the devil when wandering in the wilderness, or Gautama Buddha who was confronted by the devil when meditating under the Bodhi Tree. In the Baha'i context we recognize these incidents as when these prophets were confronted by their own lesser nature which tried to turn them away from righteousness, similar to how what you've encountered seems to be trying to turn you away from righteousness, threatening to "batter your desire to do good out of you."

Both Jesus and Gautama Buddha were undergoing periods of fasting, prayer, and meditation at the time that their lower natures manifested themselves, and we know that fasting, prayer, and meditation has interesting effects on one's psychology. You may want to consider meditation or similar practices so that you can confront your own lesser nature. If it manifests again, you might want to try listening to it, hearing out what it has to say, and then rejecting what it says, in a manner similar to how Jesus or Gautama Buddha rejected their own lower natures.



On the subject of spiritual warfare and magic:

First, don't worry too much on the idea of "accidentally doing magic". Baha'is are discouraged from trying to cultivate "psychic forces", but this is not a prohibition on all things that could be called "magic". From the context around the writings prohibiting the cultivation of psychic powers, 'Abdu'l-Baha and Shoghi Effendi appear to be talking about the power to predict the future in specific. But this does not mean other "magical" practices are forbidden.

In fact magic talismans that ward against evil are indeed a doctrinal part of Baha'i theology, known as haykal talismans (haykal translating to both temple and body). Unfortunately the exact method of creating a haykal talisman, which the Bab wrote about extensively, is not translated into English as of this time :/ . Though Baha'u'llah has also mentioned that the most powerful haykal talisman is the human body itself. My guess would be that this means we as humans already have the power over demonic forces (since those forces are lower parts of ourselves, hence why the human body is the post powerful talisman) and a written talisman serves as a symbolic reminder of that fact that the demon has no power over us, since the demon is us.

On the topic of spiritual warfare, it is a very powerful symbolic force that helps us overcome our lower nature. Understanding our own inner struggle as an external struggle is something overwhelmingly common in human spirituality, so much so that the understanding of it is probably ingrained into our very psychology. Both Sufi Mystics and Jungian psychologists teach that common tropes in human stories, like a hero slaying a dragon or a monster, are humans subconsciously expressing our inner struggle through external storytelling.

That is why we are told through Muhammad of both the Lesser Jihad, the struggle against evil in the world, and the Greater Jihad, the struggle against evil inside us: the outer form of the struggle is the symbolic expression of the inner. The concept of the Greater Jihad as given to us by the prophets is the very concept of spiritual warfare itself. So spiritual warfare is not prohibited by Scripture, in fact it is mandated. And so if the concept of spiritual warfare helps you to understand your own struggle with your lower self, I'd say use it. It's a powerful symbol and can aid you in the Greater Jihad.

In summation, if it is indeed you and not those around you that is having problems with a demon, then a psychologist and also meditation, fasting, and prayer may help to understand the nature of this demon, your lower self. Understanding of it then helps in the internal jihad against it.

If, however, it is others struggling with possession and not yourself, which based on what you have wrote so far seems to me like the less likely possibility, then they would need to be the ones to overcome their own inner shadow self.



Ok i had some time to consider your ideas. It seems there are a few people
Who believe it is possible to hallucinate conversations with others.
Mind blown if that is the case, but i experienced a trauma that affected
My experience of life for many years. Perhaps it is possible that my
Mind created this, instead of it being real.

Obviously i don't want that to be true, because what of my life can
I truly believe ever happened? It's a technique of the abuser to
Invalidate someone reality so they feel crazy.
 
Nov 2019
12
Wales, UK
Well, no, first what I present as a possibility is only a possibility. I don't have all the details necessarily to rule conclusively.

Three questions to ask yourself would be:

How many people have you seen under possession??

Do they all say/do similar things when under possession??

Has anyone else heard or seen them say or do these things??

If the answers are "many", "yes", and "no", these answers would lean towards the possibility that you are the common factor in these events, rather than the others. These answers would lean towards you being the possessed, which is both bad (in that you are possessed) but good (in that freeing yourself from a possession is far easier than freeing someone else).



And no. The whole point of combating demons is recognizing that these parts of our self are not our true selves and thus denying them. You are not a bad person, this demon or darker part is not your true self. And that's why we fight the Inner Jihad.



"Magic" is an overly-broad term. If we are talking about what the faith forbids, then this is "psychic powers" and contextually appear to be referring to scrying or future prediction.

If the magic you are talking about is "talking to spirits and trying to get them to do your bidding", then the Baha'i Faith believes in this type of magic. After all, we recognize the Prophet King Solomon, and his most notable power (in Jewish, Christian, and Muslim traditions alike) was his ability to command and control djinns or demons.

And, again, the Bab has provided us with talismans to ward off evil. Solomon provided similar talismans to ward or command evil spirits.

This doesn't necessarily mean the evil spirits are external, but they can still be internal. Things that dwell in the human psyche.

Of note, demons being an internal phenomenon does not mean they do not exist or are imaginary, though I know some can come to that impression after reading 'Abdu'l-Baha's writing on the subject. I'd say that rather these things are real, but primarily come from within rather than from outside.

But regardless of whether it is internal or external, the important thing to note is that a human is more powerful than an evil spirit. A spirit does not grow more powerful through evil, rather it gets weaker, so a human soul is mightier than a demon, which is why countless different scriptures from around the world all report that a human has power over demons.



That's how both Jesus Christ and Gautama Buddha did it. Seems to be a tried-and-true method.

Ok

A male friend tried to make our relationship sexual without permission
And i could see a dark energy/spirit in him mocking my suffering

My friend rang in crisis, hours later she looked a bit darker, her eyes wide
And bulging and started lashing her tongue in the air to try and alarm me.
Something out of the exorcis t! Then i was deceived into leaving, as soon
As i left a huge urge to jump off a bridge came, she struggled and managed
To choose not to jump but a stranger tried to grab her so she jumped.
I felt horrendous thinking my disbelief prevented me from keeping her safe.
Thankfully she survived.

then My mum looked possessed, i just cleaned the house for her with bleach
And prayers whilst she was ill and for no reason she said "you have defeated me"

I didn't get it?

Then my dad looked possessed by a black energetic presence of darkness
And he sang a song to me about driving me psychotic

I took up the challenge to overcome psychosis in retort

Then i was in a physical hospital and i thought something(s) desired
To kill me, i waited a number of hours to be killed then a patient struggling
For breath looked at me and i felt energy from her eyes trying to connect
To me, so she could pass death on to me and thus kill me. I left.

At this point i was placed on antipsychotics and could no longer perceive
Energy and stuff that was probably psychic realm?...

But, people were acting out of character and i presumed that they must have
Been possessed.

Someone over the internet messaged me saying they had spent many months
Meditating to connect with me so they could have sex... The physical body
Was someone i knew, but the conversation was mind blowing amazing
I tried to talk to him after that and he denied the conversation completely
And has not talked in such an entertaining way since.
Days before this conversation i did indeed have a weird week with unseen
Voices, music, presences telling off other presences, and i actually feel
Like a telepathic male presence healed my sexuality so that i could
Move on with my life following trauma and find a partner.
So to then have someone in reality contact me to say it was them
And that it was God's will i had sex with him...
But i denied the possibility of possession and stuck with reality that
This was a married man, so i said all the religions that said adultery
Was forbidden. He threatened me with consequences saying for the
First time in x years The forces of good and evil were out of balance
And that things were going to happen to me as a result of refusing
Sex with a married man.
Then something happened later on where i was reminded of
Something and i was powerfully struck down with unbearable sickness
And started praying to God for healing energetically.

I'm just not convinced that the married man was the one talking to me.
But something using him.

At the same time of this really intense week in my home, my friends
Seemed possessed and people knew what was happening to me
Even though i didn't tell them.

I felt like what ever it was had complete control of my life.

For example, i was bored waiting for something to happen in my
Living room, so i went to tidy the hall.
Immediately the phone rings and i see my dad marching towards the
Front door, he sees me through the window in my door, the phone
Immediately stops ringing and My dad doesn't visit but leaves without
Knocking (weird?) Then i hear a female voice from living room saying
"Come back" so i went back, and there a lot happened that resulted
In huge progress in my rrecovery from trauma.

But as you can see, what ever wanted to talk to me, was able to
Immediately bring someone to the door to look for me and what?
Stop me, and ring my phone to talk to me. And once it saw me
Through my dad's eyes that i was still in the house, asked me
To return to the lounge to continue the interaction.

I was suicidal one summer and My father figure friend looked
Possessed telling me he'd probably live to be a hundred, and telling
Me a story of a bahai who tried to commit suicide and how he failed.st
I was told that any of our attempts to suicide would fail too.
After that the unseen being demanded my company, my hamsters
Were also moved to attention too. I felt hungry and went to make soup
And there was soup already in the microwave. It made me soup?
I returned to his company only to find the gym ball on the sofa now
I burst out laughing leaving the room, immediately the phone rang
Asking me why i had left the room and i explained that it reminded
Me of castaway where he talks to Wilson the football.

We communicated via thinking, then i ate the soup, suddenly
My tv started showing shows all about healthy new attitudes
Emerging in the world towards rape. This cheered me up
No end to think this was improving or would emerge in the future.
Other stuff happened to cheer me up too.

My partner for no reason threatened to punch me saying
God didn't protect you then, i assumed he was possessed? The
Meds blinded me so...

His daughter looked possessed barging into our room at midnight
About to rip the duvet off me before stopping, trying to get permission
To walk the streets in the middle of the night, then dawn
I shook hands at that, "dawn take you all?" Aka Gandalf Lord of rings
To the possessing entity, it agreed. At some point she shouted
"I control the weather"
The next day the parents picked up their kid saying in awe something
Had happened in my home at night. Large black feathers and small
White feathers were on the ground my partner said "don't be thinking
Of angels and demons fighting"
Well not until you said that anyway!

Then i wanted to help a cat i still desire to do good, he said he'd batter
My desire to do good out of me, asking me to be bait for the evil team.

Then in my neighbourhood evil seemed every where, i could barely
Understand what was said but it was duck will eat pig...

I was then asked to rescue a duck, succeed, then say because we did
This we had the opportunity to be forgiven

And...

Wow, nothing since? Possession wise

But i think after this i had had an unseen being in the corner the dog
As frantic to be with it starting a t it, this convinced my friend to
Convert to a belief in God and say the prayer.

I asked the unseen spirit to rescue me from the darkness that wished
To destroy the moon and drag me to a new location to be with the beast
At this request a tear appeared on my sofa from no where

The next day i felt an evil presence at the door filling my home
It was scary, later i behaved a bit crazy got locked up
Then at tribunal for first time ever the women in charge said the
Mental health team were to let me go with instructions not to bother
In future. Later i was able to convince them never to send me there again
After ignoring instructions previously

I thank the spirit for achieving this in my life

What do you think? My lower nature?
 
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