Socialism and the Bahá'í Faith

May 2014
233
Dublin, Ireland
#1
Allah-u-Abha and Asalaam alaykum,

I wish to know others views on socialism? I am a socialist, because 'Abdul Bahá said Bahá'ís may be socialist and I am a BIG LIBERAL, to me it seems he favors socialism.
 
Aug 2010
724
New Zealand mainly
#2
I have translated a letter from Abdu’l-Baha to Mrs Parsons, dated October 4, 1912, on the subject of a social-welfare structure at the local level. See Abdu’l-Baha’s ‘socialism’ « Sen McGlinn's blog

He also advocated profit-sharing for workers in industries.

You might also be interested in some pilgrim's notes I found:

The subject of our real oneness with all that is true and good in every progressive movement reminds me of a very beautiful message which I read while in London from Abdul-Baha to a socialist. Socialism, he said, was one of the leaves on the Tree of Life. Then he called this soul to come into the shade of the Tree of Life that he might partake of all its fruits.

At luncheon one day in Thonon we had a distinguished visitor who asked Abdul-Baha about our economic questions. He said there were many who felt that material problems should be solved first; that, in order to level the way for the spiritual advance, we should first better social conditions, and he spoke of a friend who felt this so strongly that, though connected with the church, he was making it his life work.

“Such people,” said Abdul-Baha, “are doing the work of true religion.”

Then he went on to say that a new order of things must come but it must have a solid foundation, and that no foundation was solid save religion, which was the Love of God. When this unshakable basis of the Love of God was established in the world, then inevitably would the structure of a new social justice rise, and a new individual love and justice
see Abdul-Baha by Lake Geneva
I have not found the tablet that Juliet Thompson refers to in this letter. She would presumably have read it in English, and I cannot imagine what Persian word would be translated as "socialism." It is quite possible that he said something like "government by the people is the tree of life." Persian did not have a well-developed political vocabulary at that time.
 
May 2013
1,786
forest falls california
#3
Thoughts on cultural traditions

Allah-u-Abha and Asalaam alaykum,

I wish to know others views on socialism? I am a socialist, because 'Abdul Bahá said Bahá'ís may be socialist and I am a BIG LIBERAL, to me it seems he favors socialism.
I think that what is meant by the term "socialism" is generally political nowadays. The spiritual side of socialism is essentially to be generous and compassionate to our fellow human beings, and follows the teachings of Jesus, for example. But this does not necessarily translate into what we think of when we hear the word: socialism... today, for it is far to colored with political agendas and influence.

Baha'u'llah also has forbidden begging, and giving to beggars. So "discernment" is required of us, to see the end in the beginning...
 
Dec 2013
295
Little Rock, Ar
#4
It should also be stated that, while the socialist economic system seems supported, a Bahá'í may not be a member of his/her state's socialist party, since we are barred from partisan politics.

Other than this, I agree with you and consider myself a socialist as well.
 
Jun 2011
1,542
Somewhere "in this immensity"
#6
I think there is a difference between socialism and oneness of humanity.
I think so too. That is why we have the idea of spiritual solutions to economic problems. One idea, is for the government to attempt to redistribute wealth and try to achieve equality. Another, is to transform the character of individuals and then society, to the extent that people are less greedy and have concern for others to the extent that they are caring, sharing, less greedy and more charitable. In this more balanced and spiritual society, there is no need for government redistribution, and there is no such thing as billionaires, because nobody would endure the shame of it.

Cheers

 
Oct 2011
4,213
Quilimari,Chile
#7
I think so too. That is why we have the idea of spiritual solutions to economic problems. One idea, is for the government to attempt to redistribute wealth and try to achieve equality. Another, is to transform the character of individuals and then society, to the extent that people are less greedy and have concern for others to the extent that they are caring, sharing, less greedy and more charitable. In this more balanced and spiritual society, there is no need for government redistribution, and there is no such thing as billionaires, because nobody would endure the shame of it.

Cheers

I can only say..........Bravo :yes:
 
Jul 2011
1,747
n ireland
#8
An elderly nun who taught us Religious Ed said to us that if everyone owns everything,then no one owns anything:confused:
 

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